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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:09 pm 
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Wow I totally disagree with this. Cocky funny is a great way to get a lot of attraction and also assert yourself as the dominant person in an interaction. It doesn't build a connection though so other stuff is needed too to accomplish a seduction.

"Guy: Why should I take you out on a date? You take me out
Girl: Excuse me, who says I want to date you?
Guy: I can date any girl I want, you must be blind not to want this"

I've known some shitty aspiring pickup artists in my day but I've never known one that is dumb enough to say stuff like this. This isn't cocky funny. It's just cocky. And it's a very egregious thing to say that violates social rules very badly. Anyone saying stuff like this is greatly overapplying the concept of cockiness.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:20 pm 
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Cocky and funny works when it's natural & organic. When a man does it and laughs at his own jokes/amuses himself it tends to work. When he's trying to be a court jester and it's onvious it's forced it comes off as lame.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:10 am 
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Wow I totally disagree with this. Cocky funny is a great way to get a lot of attraction and also assert yourself as the dominant person in an interaction. It doesn't build a connection though so other stuff is needed too to accomplish a seduction.

"Guy: Why should I take you out on a date? You take me out
Girl: Excuse me, who says I want to date you?
Guy: I can date any girl I want, you must be blind not to want this"

I've known some shitty aspiring pickup artists in my day but I've never known one that is dumb enough to say stuff like this. This isn't cocky funny. It's just cocky. And it's a very egregious thing to say that violates social rules very badly. Anyone saying stuff like this is greatly overapplying the concept of cockiness.
Oh please. I could pull off that line easily if I wanted to and the girl would be laughing about it. I've actually taken dares before where I have people give me the worst pickup lines imaginable, and I'd use them. It's actually a great way to "play PUA". It's a game. It also justifies you walking up to other girls, other groups, etc. It gets people looking at you from across the room, constantly "checking you out". It creates a buzz about you. So YES! Bring on the bad pick up lines! FWIW, I studied Improv comedy. I don't believe there's such a thing as a bad line... only bad delivery.

Anyway, I'd deliver that last line while channeling my inner flaming gay man (think maybe Chris Farley seduction style too), splaying my fingers as I slide them up and down my body, showing her what she's missing.


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Wow I totally disagree with this. Cocky funny is a great way to get a lot of attraction and also assert yourself as the dominant person in an interaction. It doesn't build a connection though so other stuff is needed too to accomplish a seduction.

"Guy: Why should I take you out on a date? You take me out
Girl: Excuse me, who says I want to date you?
Guy: I can date any girl I want, you must be blind not to want this"

I've known some shitty aspiring pickup artists in my day but I've never known one that is dumb enough to say stuff like this. This isn't cocky funny. It's just cocky. And it's a very egregious thing to say that violates social rules very badly. Anyone saying stuff like this is greatly overapplying the concept of cockiness.
Oh please. I could pull off that line easily if I wanted to and the girl would be laughing about it. I've actually taken dares before where I have people give me the worst pickup lines imaginable, and I'd use them. It's actually a great way to "play PUA". It's a game. It also justifies you walking up to other girls, other groups, etc. It gets people looking at you from across the room, constantly "checking you out". It creates a buzz about you. So YES! Bring on the bad pick up lines! FWIW, I studied Improv comedy. I don't believe there's such a thing as a bad line... only bad delivery.

Anyway, I'd deliver that last line while channeling my inner flaming gay man (think maybe Chris Farley seduction style too), splaying my fingers as I slide them up and down my body, showing her what she's missing.

the line you were quoting is a horrible example of what cocky and funny is...

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Anyone who uses cocky funny through an entire interaction: every sentence out of their mouths being cocky funny lines is a fool.

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David D even says don't use it like that, calling it a spice to the conversation. There are moments when it's appropriate to throw out a sarcastic remark that's lined with humor.

When I first got into the game like many guys the first book I read was double your dating. I went out doing it and offending people at first until I learned how to properly calibrate the technique and where it's best implemented.

I also had some natural charisma since I was a really random dude back then so it fit in well with my personality. I was just in the wuss area in terms of women and dating, and getting that monkey off my shoulder was one of the best things that happened to me in my life. Even though I offended a few people learning how to properly utilize the skill.

"If you want to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs."

For me it's all in the delivery. I'll often pause for a few moments right before the cocky "I can't believe you just said that" part. Often to the lead up I'll be talking about stuff that leads them to think I will say something different so the cocky part has surprise shock value. Anyone familiar with comedic formula knows what I'm talking about.

Anyone on here who says that "this won't work for you because you're not naturally funny" is spitting bullshit. Most people laugh at shit that isn't of the funny variety. It's more surprise, awkwardness, anger etc. Just get a book about comedy and read through it and you will be able to use this technique.

A few places I whip out Cocky-Funny-No-Jutsu

She makes a sarcastic remark towards me, or says something really stupid.

She asks me a silly question. I'll answer it with a cocky funny line. If she presses after the bs response I gave her, then I will answer her honestly.

If she asks me a normal question. I sporadically alternate cocky funny responses vs honest ones.

I see something that I don't like about her reality. I point it out in a cocky funny way.

I don't talk about permanent insecurities, but with humor you honestly can talk about anything. You have comedians talking about racist shit all of the time, masking it with humor. They talk about presidents, diseases,beating kids, choking and raping women, wars, death, anything! Some comedians piss me off. That's what they aim for a ton of the time.

You just tailor the shit to the audience. If you understand the woman who you are dealing with then the use of cocky-funny is limitless.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:26 am 
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Sinn pretty much wraps up my thoughts on Cocky Funny.

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If you're naturally cocky and naturally funny then cool but if not don't try to force it. No need to replace your personality with something else.

In real life I've seen many guys try to force cocky-funny and it always came off as weird and try hard.

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I don;t agree warped. I think that's a cop out. You must not use it right?

If you read any comedy book it details what funny is. Many successful comedians would not consider themselves naturally funny, but studied funny.

I will say this though. If you are a low level dude who isn't the type that gets good at everything he does due to whatever reason. Excuses, cop outs, not dedicating the proper hours to get good at something. AND you are not naturally funny, or cocky then don't try it.

People can change though, believe that. Don't think that it's impossible for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.

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I don;t agree warped. I think that's a cop out. You must not use it right?

If you read any comedy book it details what funny is. Many successful comedians would not consider themselves naturally funny, but studied funny.

I will say this though. If you are a low level dude who isn't the type that gets good at everything he does due to whatever reason. Excuses, cop outs, not dedicating the proper hours to get good at something. AND you are not naturally funny, or cocky then don't try it.

People can change though, believe that. Don't think that it's impossible for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
Sure, a person can learn how to be funny but unless he wants a career in stand up comedy, why bother? You don't have to be Mr. Funny Man to get laid. In fact, many times humor will just kill the sexual tension.

Im naturally very funny but I will turn the humor off at times in order to increase the sexual tension. The sexual tension making her horny does a lot more towards getting me laid than being funny does.

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That's been my experience as well. I've had some absolutely hilarious things spring to mind, but the mood is not compatible. There is a time to be funny. Making her laugh and putting her in a good mood is helpful. Though you can do those things without humor, it's one way you can. But it's not useful for building sexual tension at all.

And once you have sexual tension, you really just want to build that until you can move somewhere for sex. You can still make her laugh or giggle, but I wouldn't even want her laughing too hard after a certain point. After that, almost anything "funny" I'd say, is going to have a flirty or sexual edge to it.
I'm not even sure I'd rank being funny in the top ten list of things you need to seduce women. It's mildly useful at best. And if used the wrong way(it usually is), it can hurt, not help you.

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Ok so now the conversation has evolved beyond just not being funny, and the actual effectiveness of the technique while garnering laughs.

If you were to say "run cocky-funny game, and escalate" I would say that's a terrible plan.

Humor has attractive elements but like Versalis said it's not the end all be all. JackZero and I joked about this in the chat room the other day. Jack does stand up and he knows comedic formula. I told him he should walk up to a set of girls and run a 5 minute comedy bit, and then immediately go for closes.

I was just being sarcastic and trolling to have fun. If someone were to do this I don't believe they would be very successful. Even if the comedy bit was laden with a ton of sexually charged words and cocky punch lines.

Now if you take this skill and pepper it in at appropriate times it works wonders. I will sometimes use it to build sexual tension because the sexual tension I use is 99% voice tonality and descriptive words. Getting a nervous laugh out of her while not laughing yourself makes the tensions rise even higher. Especially when I pause after they laugh for a moment, and use body language and eye contact, then switch the topic.


For me, I have a really seamless, meat and potatoes style. CF isn't the only spice I throw in. Honestly, my game is all about identifying her psychology. Then I use a calibrated kino escalation/talking style while driving the conversation through phases, and avoiding known pitfalls/handling tests. Since I use natural game, I don't have anything canned during this besides a few tried and true openers.

Attraction: Forcing an IOI - Approaching (the body language of the approach, IE I usually don't make a bee line but end up side by side) - opening - vibing bs if the initial stuff lets me know that bs is the proper calibration for the girl.
Qualification: Waiting for her to make a qualifying statement or forcing her to qualify herself
Comfort/rapport: Sharing likes/dislikes and taking her through a process of going from a superficial topic into a deep comfort/rapport themed conversation, breaking the deep conversation back to the superficial level then back down to deep.
Seduction: Attempting to get her emotional brain to override the logical one in a sex location in order for her to make an emotional reaction to have sex.

The CF stuff gets sprinkled in at all stages except the seduction part usually. I don't want her laughing because it could snap her out of the spell she's in. Like warped said though, it's not a necessary tool. More like the spinning back fist in mma. You don't need it, but it's something flashy that has major impact when used properly.

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I'm really trying to figure out if OP is just trolling.

Cocky/funny is an extremely useful TOOL in the arsenal of any attraction artist. Just like a plumber, however, different situations call for different tools (Pun not intended)

You can't use a wrench to solve every problem. Nor a screwdriver. However, they come in extremely useful in the right situations. Likewise, cocky/funny comes in very useful, especially at the beginning of interactions, and occasionally during the course of relationships. Like any other tool, it is only applicable in CERTAIN situations and the attraction artist should know when to use it and when to put it away.


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It's funny how alot of this has been said before by David d. Don't overuse it..right place and time. Just a tool. Same with negs. They're both helpful, just that guys typically disregard the original advice, abuse it, make their own lines which are terrible and just ruin the whole thing.


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shit! i forgot about this post i made a while back: the-right-way-to-do-cocky-funny-vt163616.html


and i just did a video kind along the lines of cocky funny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2mFUQWXe8U

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honestly...I like using it when I have the opportunity.

Just sharing


This girl was going to close down her Tinder App because all the guys were boring and pretty much trying to get in her pants. Yay for the 95 percent of the population. Thanks guys, you made it easy.


Here it goes, after finding out why she was closing it, I texted her (i got her number early on, just haven't managed to talk to her) I will post a field report later

Me:It's your future man. The one you are going to spoil with riches and video games

Her: Lmfaooo oh in that case, hey babe lol

Me: ouch oh oh i think my shoulders need a massage babe

Her: lol!!! Awe poor baby, come let me take care of you

Me: Oh thanks babe, if you do that , I'll make sure to take care of you

Her: Loll! That part will be easy for you, I don't ask much

Me: Oh really, You know you can..I can change it up

Her: Haha!! You want me to ask for a lot? Pshh

Me: You can be specific. Doesn't hurt

Her: I am not hard to please

Me: Fine fine. Just thought I would be a gentleman

Her: Cuddles, romantic gestures, forehead kisses lol

Me: Lol. That sounds easy enough. Just the cuddles and forehead kisses tho.

Her: oh?

Me: Romantic stuff later okie dokie?

Her: Lol I didn't mean anything sexual. I meant cute texts and premade plans movie nights and just sweet things

Me: oh my god, i need a salary or an hourly wage

Her: you're confusing, we might have to future break up :/ pshh

Me: oh noooo i can't live without you baby

her: LMFAOO! Made my night. I think I'll keep you a little longer

Me: oh great great. As long as Im getting some massages and kisses

Her: lmfaoo you only want me for my massages. u don't even know if they're good

Me: i'm pretty sure i added kisses in there somewhere. Those count

HeR: lollll! Yeah I guess that was in there too

Me: mhm yeah you guess. You just want to hold out on what's mine. Selfish

Her: what's yours? Lmfaoo what is it that you own sir?

Me : Just gonna stop talking now so I don't shoot myself in the foot hahaha

Her: I am still waiting to hear what you own

Me: You know you should come out for a drink with me sometime

Her: Good idea . Call me selfish, then ask me out for a drink? Lmfaoo my future man sure is a sweet talk, huh?

Me: haha what can i say i am a modern day casanova with a lil wayne in the mix

Her: oh my goodness..No! Lol but maybe i'll go for a drink with you

Me: Hahaha, you love it. Perfect

Her: Perfect for a maybe? Hmm you surely are an interesting one...I'm gunna keep you around for now

Me: I am pure gold baby.

Her: I like that shit keep it up.

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