Ok so I was out for St. Patties day tonight, and Im walking around and this 8 meets me at a crosswalk and asks me if she can walk with me cause shes pretty drunk. So I walk her and shes pretty wobbly and she asks me for more help cause she's drunk, so we sit down and it kinda turns into this debacle and shes kinda puking to the side a little on herself, and im holding her and im helping her and im cleaning her up with some tissues I had (she got puke on my god damn suit!)

So she feels pretty bad and lost and everything so I am just sitting there holding her while people are walking by, some looking, some poking fun, some asking whats wrong. She just wants me to keep holding her till she feels better so I do.

God damnit, I hate myself for doing this, I told myself I should stop caring about chicks and just try to game but god damn... what if this turns into a lay? I dont have much experience with this so maybe it could. Ok, so niceguy night it is... fuck this already feels like a fail.

So im sitting there with her under my suit just holding her, shes telling me I was sent from god and some other stuff about herself. She wants me to help get her keys from some guy who has them and her wallet. She is here on spring break, shes from Arizona (im in san diego) so I call the guy that supposedly has her keys and hes not answering, so I tell her look, my car is two blocks down the road, I am gonna leave you with my jacket on the other side of this wall and come pick you up.

So I set her up and I get my car and I take her back to my place and get her in my bed, and she pukes on my floor. Twice. So I clean it up and I brush my teeth and I jump into bed next to her and cuddle up. Then I start trying to kino her up and I get to kissing her neck, and she says "Im good" which, in the way she said it, I didnt know what she meant so I keep going but then she turtles up so I stop.

I am pissed off that I got soooooo much farther than I usually do, all the way to getting her in my god damn bed and I still cant get laid. I knew, I KNEW I should not have been the nice guy. Shoulda just left her there and looked for another chick. Chick is lucky I am a good guy and wouldnt go any further cause she couldnt stop me if I was a bad guy. Still, it pisses me off, cause all this is, is proof that being a nice guy will make you finish last.

Wow damn this post really stuck with me. I have been in that situation more times than I would like to remember thinking the same thing and being angry as well. I was torn between being a guy with a big heart who cared about people and a "PUA." I can imagine some of the thoughts going through your head during all that stuff and I've struggled with the same thoughts as well a few times over.

First off you are doing the right thing. The reason we know its the right thing is because it is probably the hardest damn thing to do, and that is not to take it further. You have a good heart in you man and yes you are being a nice guy, but most importantly you have character! Do not let the desire of women or PUA stop you from being who you are. Guys like you give women hope, they are the guys the ultimately want to end up with in a relationship. Yeah sure plenty of girls love to go after the bad boys initially but thats not ultimately what they want.

I'm getting side tracked a bit here but ideally they want a somewhat bad boy they can tame to being that nice guy that secretly you always were.

Back to the main issue though. You have integrity and are doing the right thing!

Does it suck? YES.
Would other guys in your position take advantage of her? Most Definitely, but that's not who you are.

I will leave you with a few words of wisdom that have helped me over the years.

Never put your passions before your principles.
The truth is we always know the right thing to do. The hard part is doing it.
You do the right thing even if it makes you feel bad. The purpose of life is not to be happy but to be worth of happiness.
Real integrity is doing the right thing, and knowing no one is going to know about it.
Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does!
Not caring what other people think is the best choice you can make.

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Dude, she's a drunk chick. Apart from being drunk, making too many moves is a couple steps from having the police knock on your day and taking you down to the station for a discussion.

Is sex great? Yes. Sometimes, we should pass it up. Whether it be from your best friend's girl who comes over for "comfort", the skeezy chick you met in the bar who hasn't managed to clear all the powder from her nose, or that girl who you're not *quite* sure is legal but is hot as hell, we NEED to be the bigger person and let our mind and conscience override our dicks sometimes.

Don't focus on what "other" guys would do. She's in your bed sick? Hey, chalk it up as a good samaritan move and hope that one day karma will come back to you. If not, you know it's not because YOU did something fucked up.


Chocolate.

A drunk girl covered in vomit ain't coming through my front door, much less getting in my bed.

You should have left her on the bench or in the street.

Ok help me understand this. Who is the guy THEY WANT TO FUCK?
Not the guy they want help from,
not the guy they expect to pay for them,
THE GUY THEY WANT TO FUCK. Who is that? What qualities does he have? Cause obviously its not the qualities I have, which is the gentleman who wouldnt take advantage of a chick even if he could. Cause all the logic is pointing to, is that girls only fuck the asshole who mistreats them and WOULD take advantage of them.
This was the answer. And the part that hurts is that I knew it too. I just cant stop being a nice guy! Fuck! I think I would rather kill myself! And what's worse is, she CONFIRMED the classic girls-into-assholes thing. I was trying to put the moves on her and all she could talk about was how much of an asshole her ex was and that she was still in love with him.

Fuck this. Women just WANT to be treated like shit. So fuck them. Next time this chick is getting left in the street.

Dude, sometimes you just need to take one on the chin. You did the right thing....mostly. Just know that you saved a girl from possibly a bad situation. Obviously if she was out of her mind enough to go home with a total stranger, a lot of really bad thinges could have happened to her had you left her.

That being said, you should be smart enough to know that of a girl is puking uncontrollably and is that incapacitated you're not getting in her pants consensually. Honestly it was a bit creepy that you tried. The girl was out of her mind drunk and all she wanted was someplace she felt safe tp sleep it, props for giving thay to her......mostly.

Listen dude, based on your posts I can tell you are starting to hate and resent women. A lot of us go through this with the community especially when we try to be someone we are not. When our needs are being met, when we get angry and frustrated, we go to war with others.

There are some women that are attracted to guys who treat them like shit until one day they wake up and want a real relationship and either the guy changes or the girl gets a good guy. There are women that will be attracted to you.

Please take a moment to listen to an old acquintance of mine Steve Mayeda formerly El Topo PUA, he works for Venusian Arts, and The 21 Convention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W7qrmg9hIs

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What did you expect me to get from that? That was almost inspirational at all but all I feel is more confused than before. Do you really expect me to believe, that after just proving to myself women only want the assholes, that anyone really wants a good guy? If that were true there would be no need for this forum, never mind the countless men out there getting nowhere that way. I am getting nowhere caring, and when I come to places like this asking for help all I get is more confused and I have reason to believe its on purpose. I see no reason to give a fuck any more and not until I get somewhere am I going to.

Nope, he didn't do the right thing. If she's that drunk she shouldn't come back to your place. What happens if she dies of alcohol poisoning on your bed? What happens if she wakes up and feels odd and claims you raped her.

If she was uncontrollably drunk, find an officer and pass her off to him. Or find her friend and pass her off. The last thing you should do is bring her to your place when she's so drunk she can't even willingly go with you.

Very good points, touche

Points:

1. She was drunk and puking. Is it really tough to consider maybe she wasnt in the mood to fuck just because of this? And would you really enjoy fucking a girl while she's throwing up and her breath smells of puke?

2. You werent a nice guy anyway. Nice guy wouldve been just taking her home (if nice = taking care of her not calling the police or something), letting her puke in a bucket and going to sleep. You brought a drunk chick home to fuck her.

3. Taking care of someone doesnt = they want to fuck you.

Sure, many girls like assholes. But regardless, I dont know what you look like or how you interact...just that it's not gonna get girls wet. You think kissing or trying to fuck a puking girl makes a girl attracted? She just thinks you have no standards or options. That alone wouldve turned off most women. And you were an asshole. You expected something from her. How is that not taking advantage? If you actually do something caring, report back, but this was just a guy trying to fuck a drunk girl. You're not some nice guy for that. You're lucky she didnt fuck you...because that would be considered rape. Think before you do shit like that. So nice guys dont finish last. Attempted rapists do. And that was the line you walked. You are very lucky shit didnt go further; she's not lucky that you didnt push...YOU are. Getting rejected on an attempted rape doesnt make you a nice guy lol. The moment you tried to get something from a drunk chick, you became an attempted rapist. And if you had gotten to fuck her and she had rightly called rape and you were in jail that would be on you.

Have to say I agree with all three points.

why do you want to have sex with someone in that state? obviously she doesnt want to have sex she feels disgusting in that moment.. make her go have a shower.. why would you want sleep in your bed and you have to clean that shit up.. you are angry at the end of this because you were EXPECTING to trade tainted empathy and caring for someone for sex. Your expectations are wrong and i don't know why you value sex with a drunk stranger so much. You say youre being a nice guy but youre not, you are angry and frustrated at the end of this because you didnt get what you wanted. If you were a honest person, why didnt you just say to her fromt he beginning " ill help you out if i can fuck your holes".

why not just be a true nice guy and help her out with no expectation, just because. don't let any type of reaction she potrays to affect your emotional state.

Next time offer your shower, with help. This gets her clean, sobered up, and NAKED.

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Have you been sick yourself? When I'm sick as fuck I don't care if Jennifer Lawrens is over, let me recover, be nice and bring me water if I ask for it and fuck off unless I asks for something else. She was clearly not feeling fine. And you think she wants to fuck.. If you read girls like this I can see why you finnish last.

You are such an AFC and don't understand humans if you think she wants to fuck after just throwing up several times. Possible drugged and incapable to act rationally, unable to make some calls to a guy herself. You decide to take her to your place instead of contacting her family or driving her to a hospital, wow getting laid you think.

She didn't diss you because you were unsexy primarly. She was not in a mood for sex with any guy, throw in Brad Pitt and she would have been "I'm fine".

Its rape having sex with a girl that is clearly not there or agreeing to it. You did the right thing when you didn't rape her. Find another way to meet girls. Or better yet get a girlfriend (you seems to need one since it would probably help you grow much more than random sex would).