Ooh, youre anger is impressing me, you seem so alpha. I am sure getting angry and putting me down as if your opinion matters gets lots of delusional nice guys paying for "lessons" from you so you can only seem like youre helping them when youre really just taking their money. Thats part of the gimmick isint it, having guys around to boss around makes you look like a guy women want to sleep with? That's the only lesson here really. Since youre so friendly im sure you wont mind me saving some guys some cash and sharing your lesson with them, or lack thereof.

Actually I still stick to that philosophy of not buying girls anything thank you very much if youre happy indirectly paying for sex or paying for the friendzone by all means do it I wish nothing more for you. I just have a problem with women always seeking my money and never giving back. Cause you see, what is not working for me IS the things I am hearing from people like this guy and im not gonna stand for the bullshit any more.

Though I have noticed the size thing before you posted anything so I am willing to consider your link. If people always provided evidence with some logical reasoning behind it like that and not just expected people to grasp confusing concepts from obscurity that could just as easily lead them in the wrong direction, I wouldnt have a problem.

For those who think he said something specific that got a girl hooked, try this: stop assuming all women hate you and need to be convinced, and instead assume women want to fuck you until they clearly demonstrate otherwise.

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Excellent advice.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

This simple advice will cut you off from women who play hard to get. They consciously demonstrate signs they don't want to fuck even if they do.

If you don't think these types of women exist. You probably have never slept with one.

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

This post doesn't even make sense, the advice above is referring to "state of mind". The man of abundance is always desired, regardless of the games the target is playing.

You can play her games if you want, but that doesn't mean you should change your state of mind.

P.s. The women who play hard to get, may make a conscious effort to give off the "don't want to fuck you" vibe, but if she really does want to fuck you, her unconscious will certainly tell you different. One word, "body language"

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

Hmmm...

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How is it hard to understand? He said assume until she demonstrates otherwise. They demonstrate otherwise, so you stop assuming she wants to fuck you. You next her, you cut yourself off. Done.

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

You must not have a lot of experience with women who play hard to get. The very fact that they are "playing" hard to get is itself suggesting they are available and inviting you to play along. As I said before, body language will tell you the truth.

I will explain this once more> He was talking about inner game, state of mind. What frame to hold with ALL women.

One more thing, If you knew that every woman in the world wanted to fuck you, would you take no for an answer from one?

If you don't get what I am saying, I'd rather just leave it at that.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

I'm not about to debate this with you. I'm taking a literal translation of what he said. Not some hypothetical inference.

Clearly you and I have different experiences of what a women playing hard to get looks like.

Take it easy guy.

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

With the state of mind I'm in, girls don't play hard to get with me. Or atleast I really pay no attention to the ones that do.

See... the fact that this way of thinking "cuts me off" from girls who play hard to get... reinforces it for me even more. So many guys in the pick up community waste so much fucking time chasing girls down... Not me though. I've got better shit to do than get all tactical with how I'm gonna get some pussy.

There are plenty of girls that won't play stupid fucking games or play "hard to get" and that actually like me and want to have sex with me. Sex isn't a conquest to me. It's a connection. And I'm done trying to force connections.

This is why I like Majikal. He bases his posts on facts, and he has standards. He possesses a core identity. He's not just a walking combination of PU techniques.

You're right to take a stance like that btw. It will get you laid. I never said it wouldn't. I wanted to point the fact out so anyone reading this knows everything they are getting themselves into when they employ the mindset.

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

I don't pay for things. Granted, I'm not weird about it. I will spend on a date, exactly what I would hanging out with a dude. And it's normal for me to spend $20-40 hanging out with a guy. So I don't worry about that on a date.
However, I never have women trying to get me to buy them things. What you're experiencing is the direct result of either your actions, or how you're screening women. I don't deal with this. It doesn't sound like Majikal deals with it.

Being a wordsmith has almost no value in bars and especially clubs.
Here is the logic.
Here is study on how well "game" works, over just going for interested girls.

Girls are mostly interested in you up front, or they're not. Contrary to what the community teaches, you don't win girls over. Getting good with women is mostly about finding women who are initially receptive and then not fucking up, getting her horny and getting her somewhere to have sex. That's it. It's very simple, actually. It's not easy, but it's simple.

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I might not win the PUA of the Year Award but I'll always keep it gangster

Wow. Thank you versalis, that was exactly what I was looking for. I especially liked your second link that talks about leveraging natural attraction. My only question is, what is it that "naturally attracts" then? Perhaps that, like the idea of just not messing up and not breaking tension, is a more long winded answer that I dont expect you to go in depth into. I just want you to know I really appreciate laying this out so clearly, this is gold.

If you click around the SecudtionMyth site, it explains a lot of the "what causes attraction" question(though not all of it). Some of it is an X factor. Maybe there are some fine points to be found, but the major things are obvious and easy to grasp. Look as good as possible. Test out girls at a distance that makes her feel safe, and shields you from social fallout from rejection. Give off a cool vibe. Synch up with the girl, where you're just natural with her. Don't try to make her like you. Let yourself like her(not obsessively), and assume she'll do the same. Let sexual tension grow over time, this is the natural occurrence of two people who are already attracted to each other. It's nature. You don't need to do things to attract her. Just let yourself feel this sexual interest in her and she will mirror it back. When you try to "build attraction", all you're doing is gumming up the nicely greased wheels of nature. Our Caveman ancestors didn't run NLP patterns, lol.

All you really need is:
1. Initial sexual interest.
2. She becomes comfortable around you(basically you don't need to do anything other than have a good time and not scare her off. It's mostly just a matter of being around her for a while).
3. You keep moving towards sex at a pace that never makes her scared or seriously uncomfortable.

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