Im a fucking wreck internally. I dont have 19 more posts on the newbie section. Can I get a pass? Ive fucked 200+ women off playing numbers and natural game. I realize I have alot to learn, that's why Im here.

Current situation:

Wife: 24 years old. 1 (2 year old) child together. Stepchildren involved on both sides. Face: 10, body: 9, personality: honest keep it real bitch that will beat your bitches ass if she gets out of line but also good hearted. Shes a go getter. When we met I was making 5 figures a month. We switched roles now she does and supports me.

Problem: Weve been married 4 years. Ive been lazy and depressed dealing with losing my job and my son having epilepsy issues. My wife stuck by me but kept warning me to get a job or start a business. I never put up a good effort and she wants a divorce now. She said she will never be attracted to me again. She still pays the bills and buys me gifts all the time and supports my expensive weed habit (which I have a medical card for). But she is excited about the divorce too. Obviously she is talking to someone else now.

What im doing: Using an aire of indiffernce, exuding confidence (after a period of shock and pathetic jealousy), im using negs when she tries to make jokes and I do get a genuine smile and laugh in return, im agreeing with the divorce and giving her freedom in return she makes it a point to spend atleast 4 hours of face time with me everyday. We watch movies, smoke weed, eat out but NO kino. She acts repulsed when I touch her hand and she wont text me when were away. I dont text here either unless its important and its only once. Im also working out almost have a six pack again. Im starting a business like weve always talked about and om talking to 3 other women and letting her "find" the text messages.

Do I go full playboy? Embrace this divorce as a new start? Can I get kino back without repulsion and also sex? Or do I try to get her back? I have fixed my problems but ahe still seems done.

Hi there,

What is your ideal outcome? You haven't said...

What do you want to happen, if you could choose?

You're going to get advice going in 50 different directions unless you specify your goals.

Thank you. I want to divorce as friends and stay business partners and fwb.

That seems messy on the business side. Also, if I read correctly your friends without the benefits no? So what's the up side here? Despite your statements regarding your confidence and women you have it seems like she's totally immaculate you. She has all the power and doesn't want anything sexual to do with you. Why lower yourself further to try and get sex from her when it's u necessary and will further complicate your business relationship? I go out on limb by assuming it would not be emotionless sex and that you still hope to completely win her back?

I think I know what you mean about emotionless sex. But sex for me its always emotional. I need affection and I can separate my feelings jealousy wise. I agree I dont want to fuck up our business relationship or our parental relationship. Im just hoping we occasionally hook up and get along in the mean time. I respect her and love her but I think its better if im free and I give her the same freedom. I am starting to see I just gotta man up and let things be.

*update* She initiated Kino earlier by picking a hair from my goatee. She let me pull her collar to "look for her necklace." Plus she let me hold her hand to check out her rings.

I think everything is gonna be ok. We both needed to relax and be free. Im glad I found this forum. Ive been feeling hopeless but im bouncing back. Thanks

This is bugging me, what else is going on in this situation? She's super young and was younger than 20 when you met. You had at least a low six figure annual income at that point and had played the field enough to get 200 plus women. So how dramatic is the age gap?

Also, I'll venture a guess that you supported her for a majority of your relationship right? So why now, despite some laziness on your part, is she unwilling to do the same? I'm sure much of your support went in to cultivating her aND getting her, professionally, to where she is now...assuming, like you said, that now she has an income similar to what yours was?

Seems to me you're older and married a young hot trophy wife who loved to be supported by you. Now you are the broke one and now you are finding out exactly how deep her emotions for you run. It seems as if she doesn't need you for anything anymore and you gave her all the good things a 20yr old can't afford thus softening the blow to getting her where she is now. She still young and wild as all 24yr olds are, so she's decided she doesn't need her starter husband anymore and she's gonna go be wild.

Im 35. i hit the 200 mark around 26 years old way before i made any real money. My only game then was literally asking every attractive girl i met for their number. I would get 1 in 10 and out of those numbers i got i would fuck 1 in 10. I was a busy mother fucker all day and night. I would ask atleast 50 women a day for their number. 350 a week. Average 3 new lays a week. It was alot of work. Then i read the game and learned a few new tricks. Stopped banging as many low self esteem sluts andbslowed down and concentrated on higher quality girls and fell in love out the gate and marrried my first wife. Then divorced and met my new and hotter wife.. She was 20 when we met and we married 6 months later. When we met she had no idea how much money I was making. I always had the motto if i gotta pay for it i dont want it. Besides I knew it was coming to an end. I was selling legal weed, Orange Crescent. The government stepped in and made the first of a series of bans and I was unwilling to switch to unsafe but legal formulas so I bowed out of the game. I went from 80k my last month in business to a slave in a shipyard just to prove I would do anything to support her. I quickly became leaderman and got fired shortly after for smoking weed. Im fucked in the head and she appreciated that and went and got a job where she can hustle as an event planner ( she sets up jazz fest and concerts). She supported me the last 3 years and is fed up. I kept making half assed attempts at starting another business. Plus I cheated on her early on so theres that pain she could never really get over so we fight over petty shit.

She is super low maintenance too. Does her own hair, shops at thrift stores and loves buffets. Shes hood on the inside and a princess on the outside. We had very similar upbringings and she hadnt met too many intelligent guys that were also a little hood too. She loves old school rap and tattoos and ahe has alot of pain in her childhood and we both identified on those points. We say the same thing at rhe same time constantly. She is like a female version of me but more loyal. I was tainted when I met her and generalized her unfairly under the judgement i gave to all girls at the time. "She will like me for a while fuck me then lose interest." Problem was she really loved me and I crushed her fucking heart with my selfish ignorance.

I think she loves you still based on the info you provided. Continue taking charge of your life and eventually you'll both be happy together again. There's that seven year itch rule though when it comes to permanent break ups; just about enough time for your kid to complete the formative years.

Hint: There's a lot of hope when your seven years in this relationship is not yet up.

Oh, in case of an actual divorce, get some alimony from her to keep her invested.

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@freaky
You have lots of tension and heat in the relationship from previous mistakes that you need to sort out first.
Your first step is to work on your friendship with her and stop trying to get into her pants. The more you try to sleep with her at this stage the more you push her away.
When the heat of past arguments is gone and the divorce is finalised and you two are friends she will be more receptive for sex. That's the perfect timing to start kino etc.
She will be alright with being fwb because she won't want to go back to a failed relationship. So you are all good.
P.S. Keep doing all the rest you do with the other women as a reminder that you are not relationship material.You won't even have to have the talk about being fwb. Just have the FB attitude.
Your fwb will last until she finds someone else to settle down with.

Ok, now I see what's goin on.

Quite honestly, I think totally moving on is your best bet. You don't need her for sex obviously and by your own admission you won't be able to keep it emotionless which is what a FWB relationship is. Not to mention to go after sex with her at this point would be super needy considering how far in the hole you are with her. My personal opinion is to keep it strictly professional, repair your personal (non-relationship) relationship with her, regain her respect and trust, and if you want to reapproach things later, when you're on equal playing fields and neither one is supporting the other, you can certainly try

Alot of good input. I believe I will focus on being friends. And business partners.

Hellhound Im not concerned with alimony. We have split interests in a weed tour business and a concession stand so I can get money, besides seeing my kids is more important than the money and I have unlimited access to my kids. I love her and I am willing and strong enough to put this marriage behind us and just see what happens down the road.

Greggomatik my definition of emotionless sex is basically banging a hooker. I enjoy women more than that so when I have sex I get freaky and talk ALOT of shit and really soak up the emotional end of it as well as enjoy getting a nut. I know how to enjoy the feelings I get from a womans presence and enjoy her affection without becoming jealous. Up to and including an ex.

Maria I do realize if I dont tie her back down by nature she will seek out a guy that will offer the monogamy and stability. Im ok with all of that now. I have been out of the game for a while now which I realize was a mistake because I could have changed this but I will turn this to a positive. I have literally been working all of this out in my head over the past 2 days. Been doing alot of reading to get the right frame of mind.

You're the MAN!

Hope a lot of guys and a few girls with problems in this section will follow your positive example.

Best wishes and good luck.

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Thank you brotha. It's all due to reprogramming my mind from all the bs I was fed as a child. One thing thats helping big time is going to the gym everyday. I meet beautiful women and feel good. I cant wait to get back into night game. I miss the challenge snd honestly I think it turns my wife on. She always has been more attracted when I talk to other women even though she acts jealous.

First off, thats awesome the amount of effort you put into PU to get to 200. Haha, I got bored putting in 1/3 the effort you did,

Second, are you monogamous?

Im in the same boat as you. Im 36, shes 24.... there will always be complication with this much age difference. But I find it well worth it. We are not married, nor have the complications on children but we have lived together for a few years. My advice is never stop the player. Never promise monogamy. Im not out banging a bunch of girls, but I could. Ive never stopped my attitude or philosophies of life for a woman. If you bring drama in my house, you'll leave. If you dont want to fuck me someone else will. The two only real rules we have. 1. no drama. 2. No disrespect. This takes care of 98% of our issues.

Go back to the roots that got you to where you were and never again change who you are.

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"Every woman's a whore in the right situation"
"They're all selling it for something"
"She's sluttier than you think she is"

Sounds like she might be seeing someone else don't know if shes fucking him. It also sounds like she cares for you probably since your the father for one of her kids. I wouldn't worry too much about how to keep her as a fwb because more than likely she will, but it will cause complications between your business if you work together.