If you have read pretty much any of my post then you know I preach that looks matter. There is, however, an exception to that rule. If you are ugly then read on...

I don't know any socially retarded men who get laid with attractive women but I know quite a few ugly guys who get laid by attractive women. Thing is, none of those ugly guys are using cold approach. Unless a guy is happy with banging ugly women, cold approach is a waste of time unless you are above average looking. Thankfully I was blessed in that area.

So how do these aforementioned ugly guys get laid by hot girls? A value exchange. In other words, these ugly guys have something that women want and are willing to exchange sex for.

One guy is a photographer and a gate keeper to the modeling world. He has tons of contacts in the modeling world that can get a woman modeling work and hes not shy about letting the women know it. He gets a lot of sex from women trying to break into that career.

Another guy is a person who deals with certain "substances" and exchanges those "substances" for sex.

The third guy I know is in a really popular local rock band and has a ton of social proof from it. Many girls fuck him so they can brag to their friends that they "fucked a rock star."

So, how do you get laid by hot girls if you're ugly? Stop trying to cold approach them and figure out to get what they want bad enough to exchange sex for.

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id say this is a pretty dissapointing, unimaginable thread. Ugly guys do get laid from pickup. Although looks do highly matter. Good topic though.

Sure, I know ugly guys who get laid from cold approach pick up but its rarely by top shelf women.

Looks matter a lot with cold approach pick up.

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its hella rare from photography, or being a musician for an ugly guy to get laid too... but when one does you hella notice... unlike the 3,000 you dont notice. Also way more ugly dudes do photography, and join bands. Fewer get successful at pua. But if more did im sure it would be pretty obvious your chances are much better learning pua. Also learning how to actually handle a woman...

You talk like all women are hookers exchanging sex for career perks.

Of course girls are attracted to power. I am sure Ron Jeremy does okay...

There is more to it than that, an example - age can also be a factor, I have a very ugly friend who was 19 at the time and went out with a 15 year old. He had a car and her friends were jealous or something. Everybody called him a pedo but he stuck it out and dealt with the bullying for years Now that he is 33 and she is nearly 29 or something it is no longer a big deal. She is absolutely stunning and he is getting uglier - people gorp at him with envy.

There are many variables that women like, girls like older guys with cars who pop their cherry and remain their 1st and last love. She still adores him- Granted, if she dumped him, he probably might be devastated lol

All that matters is that you Improve yourself each day in incremental steps, they will add up in the long run and make you an overall attractive guy. If you are a guy that eats way over his calorie limit, still lives with parents, wears Star Wars t-shirts, zero confidence. Then you don't deserve success with quality women. There is no excuse, if you're in the same position in life as you are 5 years ago then you haven't stepped up in life, then get started already.

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It's the Law of Reciprocation. She gives sex in hopes for ________ or he offers _______ with the hopes of sex.

I do disagree with ugly guys not getting laid by top shelf women because I've seen it numerous times. I know seriously hot females who were with ugly guys that had nothing special to offer. It always boiled down to something in their personality and the approaches were always indirect. The one thing that I was able to pick up on was the guy being able to sell them on not being about just fucking them. They also had to do more to win them over because the initial attraction wasn't there.

The real problem for these guys were that they became clingy because they did get the hot girl which they were not used to doing.

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Im not telling people to become a photographer or join a band to get laid, Im telling people to leverage what they have that hot girls want, those guys are just examples of two people who did that.
Exactly. In my original post I told guys to leverage what they have to make hot girls want to fuck them. He was older and had a car. This made her friends jealous. She liked that. He leveraged the fact that he was older and had a car.

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Agree with your post. I think V said in another thread, there's a difference between be able to get a girl and getting girls consistently. If you want consistency you gotta leverage

Exactly. They got cling because getting hot girls was out of the norm for them. An ugly can can fuck a hot girl from cold approach if he approaches plenty but it wont be consistent. If an ugly guys wants to make fucking hot girls a normal, consistent event then his odds are better if he leverages what he has.

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Or he can learn to understand the pattern of what he did to get the hot girl so that it's repeatable and not be afraid to lose the hot girl. And I guess that's my whole point...an unattractive guy can cold approach a hot girl and exchange the quality of physical attractiveness for another quality that appeals to her emotionally but not necessarily materially. Is it going to be as easy as it is for the guy who is physically attractive? No, but with practice and determination it will be possible and repeatable.

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In cold approach PU, the girl is rarely going to give an unattractive guy enough time to show any other qualities.

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How can you absolutely be sure about that if you don't have the obstacle of being an unattractive guy?

Physically unattractive guys don't generally do cold approaches to hot women because of their fear of rejection. Then they end up taking advice from guys who are successful with women who have the advantage of being physically attractive. These guys don't have the ability to teach another guy how to get women to listen based on pure content because they never had to learn it for themselves. This leaves the unattractive guy believing that there is no way for him to pick up hot girls and believing PU doesn't work for him.

My friend, Cam, he falls into the category of unattractive but he constantly meets/dates/fucks hot women. He also knows that he can't approach them the same way that you can. Instead he opens them indirectly and he tests to see if he can get them to return his smile. He'll small talk them for a few moments and then asks them if they date "regular guys". He says he does this because he knows that women don't usually want to appear shallow or superficial and at the same time it puts him into the category of regular guy. Then he will small talk a little bit more and get them to talk about what qualities that they don't like about the guys that they normally date while he agrees with them. He builds a bond with them that moves him from being unattractive to attractive.

The trick is that he has to get them to want to give him the time of day to have a conversation. While a guy like you may be able to do it with pure attractiveness, he has to do it with charm.

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Great thread Jeff. Your insights and the insights of others above are likewise noteworthy and worth thinking about.

Just imagine what an average to goodlooking guy can do with leverage...

Priceless.

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Hey guys, fuck all this becoming confident thing. Let's just all make cash, become famous, and then we can have all the girls we want! Woo! Oh what? Once that lifestyle stops so will the girls? Doesn't matter!

You missed the entire point of the article. Perhaps go reread it a few times.

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