I never go to bars or clubs, it's just not my thing. In fact, I've never so much as drank/smoke/ect, ever in my life. But.. the SPAM at a noisy pub is pretty fun sometimes.

So, since I was new, I was doing some people observing.

What I noticed is that the goofier looking kids who were having fun that were just wearing a T-shirt and jeans were getting some ridiculously hot girls to join in with them.

The other kids, who were all dressed up and being the mysterious fella by the side, just stood there scoping out the girls. They literally did not even talk to one girl.

So my question is this. Dressed up or not, do girls just really not care about the way a guy looks? Obviously I don't mean rotted out teeth and hasn't showered in days. It's just that most of the guys I've seen who pull the hottest girls wouldn't be exactly considered male models.

Thanks.

Looks matter.
But, Confidence > Looks.

If you have both, you will be unstoppable.

Something else to note about the dudes you observed: They got into the game and took action. Better to take action than to forever wonder, "what if......."

I don't necessarily think looks matter either...confidence is more powerful I guess.

But there's nothing wrong with taking care of yourself and good ol' grooming *sips coffee

Just being fun and having a good vibe can do so much for you its retarded.

This weekend I was at a buddy's birthday party. While at dinner I was the funniest, most ridiculous most energetic person there (which is saying something as everyone was pretty amped up) and I swear another friends girl was giving me eye rapes and the birthday boys sister (21 vs my 34) couldnt stop glancing at me at twirling her hair when she did.

Energy matters....a lot!!

Stupid thread.

You described different behavior.

You must compare different looks + same behavior. Meaning compare goofy kids doing the same cool things with good looking guys doing the same cool thing.
Not goofy kids doing cool thing and good looking guys doing boring thing.

Girls tend to be more passive then men due to the effects of estrogen. The odds of a girl stepping up are fairly low and rare, when it happens it's pretty admirable in my opinion. Girls are not blind or anything, but anyone can appreciate someone who appreciates them and the bold showcase this more then the cautious.

Just like Wayne Gretzky used to say, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Appearance helps (a lot)
style helps (a lot)
Confidence is necessary

but if you never approach its all meaningless.

looks are irrelevant, if anything they are just a foot in the door, you need to know what to say - what matters is being well groomed, social intelligence and style

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I just meant that the well groomed guys expected girls to flock around them