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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:56 am 
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I feel like this may get a laugh and some conversation out of a girl, but have you ever pulled or even gotten a day 2 with someone you've said this to? Not only is it DLV, it's disqualifying yourself, conveying to her that you have accepted you are not good enough.
I think the overall purpose of this opener is to get warmed up, not necessarily to take said girl home.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:32 am 
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I feel like this may get a laugh and some conversation out of a girl, but have you ever pulled or even gotten a day 2 with someone you've said this to? Not only is it DLV, it's disqualifying yourself, conveying to her that you have accepted you are not good enough.
As I said this is hardly field tested so any results could probably be considered a fluke since there's such a small sample size, but I've used this opener 5 times total and gotten 1 day two out of that.

I agree that it's conveying a certain sense of low self-confidence, but at the same time, if you convey it with good posture, good eye contact and a sense of certainty in yourself (which I know sounds counter-intuitive, but it's possible to say things which outwardly suggest low self-confidence while inwardly radiating high self-confidence), I think it's possible to use effectively. At the very least it throws the girl off and takes her out of her comfort zone, which leaves the ball in your court so to speak so that if you continue to show you're a good conversationalist and show alpha male characteristics, it gives you a slight edge over an opener that generates conversation, but doesn't take her out of her comfort zone. Seems to me it's a bit of a high-risk, high-reward kind of play- either it works or it doesn't, but how you follow it up plays a pretty large role in that success.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:39 am 
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She'll pass out with boredom before you get to the end of that fucking crap and btw don't go telling women what you want them to do either you fucking moron. Here's what I want you to do. Yeh fuck off. It's a fucking terrible move to tell them what to do. Again most women will be polite to you even though they think you are a fucking jerk. Shit you guys are fucking hopeless aint ya? None of you seem to know women at all and your piss poor attempts at getting attention is pathetic. This PUA shit has made you all run around like fucking headless chickens. Must do this, must do that. Must be one step ahead. Desperate, desperate, desperate. Too fucking funny :lol:

Hey man no offence, but I think you're way off. I think telling women what you want them to do (in certain ways) can be really effective, I think one of the qualities women look for most in a man whether at a subconscious or conscious level is a man who leads. Telling them what to do or what you want them to do all the time obviously can make you come off as a controlling douchebag, but if you do it in small doses and counterbalance it with also being generally courteous and respectful, I think it can be really effective. One of the oldest cliches is girls want a nice guy with an edge, and being respectful but from time to time telling women what you want them to do can definitely make her more attracted to you, at least in my experience.

Also, I know it's an internet forum... but dude, there are ways of getting your opinion across without saying everyone else is wrong or generally being an asshole, like what you said actually made sense and was a reasonable opinion, but you said it like an asshole. Anyways fuck that was more passive aggressive than I wanted it to be, all I'm trying to say is there's more polite ways to get your point across than the way you did. This works better if we're working together instead of calling each other names and insisting we're right and everyone else is wrong. Anyways, cheers mate!


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