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 Post subject: Demonstrating Value
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:13 am 
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I am new to the PUA game although I am 51 yrs old. I had been talking/texting etc to a really hot woman I met from a dating website. So our first meeting was at a local casino where she was taking her daughter and some of friends for her daughters birthday. This woman at no time acted like she was really glad to see me. I felt like the whole night "yeah this is gonna be another one of those "' You are a nice guy but I do not feel any chemistry with you'" kind of dates". She was not rude but just not real focused on me or seemingly into me. Her daughter would go from telling me how great her mom was to arguing with her mom and crying about stuff. It felt really weird at times. So this woman basically just played the slots and after several hours of us having light chit chat I suggested several times that we go to a different casino cause Horseshoe was not paying shit. I did not know how to demonstrate value in this situation. I thought about the cat string theory but did not know how to make her work for my attention either. After a while I told her I was tired and that I was going home. She did tell me to text her when I got home so she can know I made it home safe. She just now text me asking if I made it. My idea is to wait about another hour and a half or two hours and text her telling her I went to Hollywood casino or Bally's casino and played the slots there. It seems less lame than just telling her I did in fact go home. I would like to see her again but I don't like feeling or acting like an AFC. Advise? suggestions?
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TWP63


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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrating Value
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:44 pm 
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This woman at no time acted like she was really glad to see me. I felt like the whole night "yeah this is gonna be another one of those "' You are a nice guy but I do not feel any chemistry with you'" kind of dates". She was not rude but just not real focused on me or seemingly into me.
The first thing I notice is that you are more concerned with how she felt about you than you are about how you felt about her or if this was a waste of YOUR time. Women will pickup on whether or not you think your time is valuable, so if you show her it is not, she will not value spending time with you.
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Her daughter would go from telling me how great her mom was to arguing with her mom and crying about stuff. It felt really weird at times. So this woman basically just played the slots and after several hours of us having light chit chat I suggested several times that we go to a different casino cause Horseshoe was not paying shit. I did not know how to demonstrate value in this situation. I thought about the cat string theory but did not know how to make her work for my attention either.
Again, what basically happened is that you let a woman and her daughter ruin your night. Never treat a woman any better than you treat yourself. If you feel that women are better than you are, then this is the first thing you have to address, because they are not, but society would like to make it seem that way. Also, you introduced no sexualness into this encounter at all, so it basically turned into a friends outing instead of a date, which helps explain why she wanted to check-up on you to make sure you got home ok...like a mother or close friend would.
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I would like to see her again but I don't like feeling or acting like an AFC. Advise? suggestions?
Thanks,
TWP63
Really curious why you would want to see her again when she treated you so poorly? She did not show that she valued spending time with you whatsoever, and she ignored you pretty much the whole time. I think your answer lies in needing to improve your own view of yourself. When you can become a man who thinks more about himself than the women he dates, you will force them to value spending time with you, because they either act accordingly, or there's the door kind of thing. Work on affirmations and practice approaching women in person in order to raise your confidence level. Once you're more confident, you won't have to worry about this kind of stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrating Value
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:32 am 
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I somewhat disagree with the above poster although he addresses some legitimate points.

Your basic mistake was dealing with bad logistics and not setting the table correctly. You need to pay more attention to if she is a legitimate high yield prospect BEFORE the date. It's typical for new guys in the game to go on any date they can get despite the fact that their prospect actually sucks. No way should you ever agreed to meet any chick who is toting around a friend, sibling, or kin. That's a nonstarter. Secondly the casino is lame meeting place, let me give you the cheat sheet, take them to a low key lounge or bar without distractions, no yelling gamblers, no male competition, no blinking lights and bells. Just a place where you can run game 1 on 1.

Also you initial impression was correct so why are you hanging in set for hours? I know I have enough game to turn a bad start into an average ending and an average start into a bang, but it is very hard to turn a bad start into a bang at any point. When I get sourpuss faced chicks, bad body language, or shitty vibes the first 5 minutes of the date I always bail sooner than later.

And yes you should wait for her to text you then tell her you just "met up with an old friend"


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