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Joe that's the paradox, and the reason I bring this up is because other PUAs should think about this as well.

Due to my new epiphany about caring.

Has your heart been severed from love? We systematized getting women and make it so easy that honestly, they are a commodity to us. I'm talking about us who live in abundance. This isn't wrong because they sort of forced us into this position. I'm just saying. It's not fair to the ones who actually deserve the love from evolved men. Sometimes I feel sorry for women.

How can we hope to possibly obtain love if we remain uncaring and unattached to every single one of them? But, we have to remain unattached to the outcomes of situations in order to keep our attractive identities. Being unattached and uncaring will form into a habit. The habit will be extremely hard to break and one day you will look at yourself and feel empty. Love is required. No way around that. We were never designed to live and die alone, it's not what propagates the species.

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I mean, what's the alternative Joe? Cater to a bunch of lonely, weak individuals that use excuses and twisted logic to justify their weaknesses? These dudes are seriously asking the world to cater to them because they refuse to become strong on their own.
You have way too much time on your hands dude. Log off and leave your apartment. Do more PU! The difference with female privy and privilege is that, women get it for however long their stock is up but, when it drops, the victimizing reaches new levels.
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You can agree with me that we don't live in Ancient Waring China. There isn't some Monarchy suppressing information from the average dude. In fact, Julian is now known as the most hated man in the world. PU is not some secret concept. Granted some forms of PU are superior to others. But the basic principles of meeting and dating women are not secrets. There is no excuse for these dudes not to learn a few simple skills that will allow them to pick up women.
Most of the world has no fucking clue who Julien is but, some cackling cunt shaking dildos and not getting dick is having a hissy fit. Nobody cares any more but, due to the way rsd handled it, I am staying away from their events. I think the content has improved more so then the community as a whole.

You are coming from a frame of abundance. You made some bold claims and supported none of them in a previous thread talking about pimping out women outside your city without even visiting. Moving on, PU assumes equality and promotes not being cut from a different cloth; disfigurement of course does not exist nor do attractive or the Zyzzs of the world. PU cannot promote the differences. It pretty mucn pan handles to astronomical approaches. Of that kind of abundance, you are bound to pull, get laid, and have choice. Regardless of the PU system, model or tactics, this is not the most effective use of time. Then again, what is the alternative? Passive dating role better yet, known as online dating or tinder. No thanks.
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Joe when your sleeping with a woman do you pound her brains out mercilessly? Are you in tune with how the woman is feeling during the process? Are you able to look into her eyes during the act? You don't have to answer those questions. I'm just thinking you may have not dealt with the misogyny that's in most men's cores due to social conditioning, and a hatred towards mothers.
I have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. I am still lost when you were talking about PU and having not left your apartment in 2015. Even a trip to the grocery store is an excuse to do PU. It is not the most effective system but, for now, there is not much a better an alternative.
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Financial freedom and 1 million dollars in my bank account. The book isn't selling as fast as it should even though I've done everything correctly on the marketing side. I drive tons of traffic to my website. I learned how through High Traffic Academy and learning how to dominate keywords with Google Ad words. I only learn from the best so it was only natural. I hit higher numbers than the industry standards on my traffic campaigns. More than 3x industry standards actually.
According to many millionaires, the first is always the most difficult but, once you hit that, even if you lose it, you can do it again. You proved this. I rather be self made millionaire than win a lottery. This is not suggesting I would turn it down. That would be crazy.
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I created a product in a space that has no answers. My answer to that niche is super high quality. So I stand alone with no competition, and competition can't match my quality because honestly the average person isn't of my quality.
Dude, you need to be more specific. I feel like I am having a conversation with the Riddler lol
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Hell the average person isn't of your quality either. I get annoyed when people say we are all equals. We may have all been born with the same potential (and that's a stretch due to circumstance), but over time that potential is either met and becomes greater or diminishes.
Well, this is the pan handling feminist society we live in. Ask a feminist. Everything and everyone is equal. This would imply, women and men have it just as easy when it comes to getting laid. Wait,,,, lets try this again?
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The price is less than they would pay to have even a few of the individual things I teach them in my book done. Professional resume builders are charging up-to and beyond $400 bucks for their services. My system is as good as any professional or better.
Your falling off track dude. Cliff notes will do next time.
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$154.99 may be too much to charge for the book. They get my bribe (the free pdf) and opt in to my subscription list, but aren't purchasing the book. I'm planning to poll all of my subscribers once I hit 1,000 and just ask them why they aren't buying the book.
Read my previous RE:
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Cheap fucking assholes. Getting the free thing but not paying for the valuable one. You know some guy on here asked me where he could get a free pdf copy of my book? :lol: like I'm going to pirate out my own shit.

Anyway, there is nothing left to do there I hit every point correctly. The product's value, the traffic generation system, and the traffic conversion system to get subscribers. More than 20% of the people who land on my website sign up for my subscription. I convert over 5% of the total people I get my ad in front of. By convert I mean out of 100 people that see the ad 5 of them will go to my website and opt-in to my subscriber list.

The industry standard is a 1% conversion rate.

I have some affiliate campaigns running off clickbank, but those pay pennies and are just barely enough to keep the lights on here. They can't be scaled up either.

Anyway, I'm on to the next step. There is nothing left to be done there except poll subscribers to see what the hell is their problem.

I've mastered marketing lead generation and conversion and created my own product what the fuck else can I do? I just gave the problem to my assistant to solve. The Almighty. Now I have an infinity loop angle I'm working. The way I invoke the help is pretty crazy so I won't go into any details. It's for me, and I don't care what others think or believe.

Using my personally created invoking system I usually get the answers I'm looking for within 48 hours. At this point it's like submitting a trouble ticket to the help desk for me. A real abc process that I am grateful for.

The answer, a lead merchant of real estate deals. Simply, a guy will pay me to market for him to find leads for his business. I get paid up front regardless if he manages to close a deal or not. Just get him some high quality leads. I'm targeting people in orange county Florida and can do it from this seat here.

Then I'll take their money and fuel my marketing machine here in Atlanta to find 5-10k wholesale deals for myself. So I don't have to put up the funds for myself anymore. I'm going to collect the money up front and then fulfill the leads over time.

I can make enough money to fund my marketing and pay my bills. I'll also gain access to leads before I give them to the customers so I can cherry pick the best deals if I want. The businesses feed off each other and the more competition the better because I have more people to sell to.

There are so few of these guys in this space it's crazy. I doubt any of them have the potential I do after looking over their websites and marketing machines. I learned from the best. Get paid to market for others and myself... Thanks again.
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You are losing me.
This was the thinking pattern I was going through at the time looking over my strengths and trying to see what piece of the puzzle I was missing that would send me over the top.
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Another moment of synchronicity I didn't mention was the show that came on immediately after the Fairly Odd Parents. Sponge Bob, and the episode was based around him getting an assertive side and then becoming a complete dick to everyone. This episode didn't apply to what I was talking about caring, but it reminded me of a problem I overcame in the past and re-affirmed the concept of an idea taking on a life of it's own then taking over my thinking patterns.
I realized tonight that, my game is a lot better than I give myself credit. I still feel like that there must be a better system and way to spend my time. Most times, I feel absolutely nothing from the experience or outcome but V already called me a sociopath for not caring what people think. I cut that stuff off ages ago when I lost absolutely everything. The way I view life now is that, I have nothing left to lose, and everything to gain.
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The thing is, before PU and the marine corpse I used to be soft as a pillow and could never say no to anyone. Afterwards, I went through a polar opposite insecurity complex where I was too harsh to everyone. I realized what was going on and came back down to earth. And recently I discovered I had lost my ability to care for others. I used to be such a nice caring guy, but the marines, a really fucked up relationship I had with a stripper, and then learning PU made me cold and unemotional. Except for anger, there was certainly plenty of that to spare.
So are you saying you are a sociopath like V said I was?
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By the way, I went through life thinking I was crazy as fuck for a long time. Having a genius IQ allows me to see patterns invisible to the average person. This type of thing (synchronicity) happens on a regular basis and when I first became aware of it I tried to explain to my family that I was seeing messages on TV and hearing shit on the radio, or as I'm passing by hearing a conversation other people were having, and They pegged me as crazy, and attacked me emotionally. That's another reason why I don't fuck with those treacherous people.
Dude, you are talking in third person; and now a genius?
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I honestly could not care less if another person believes me at this point. Belief or not the stuff keeps happening on a daily basis, and will not stop. I ignored it for a while hoping it would go away. Then I got fed up and searched the internet to see if other people were having this experience.
I am questioning your sanity. You made some outrageous claims in a prior thread about PU, you sent me an absolutely ridiculous pm, and e bragged quite a bit without any follow up or actual content.
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Imagine the type of google search I had to do to find out the term "synchronicity" having no clue it existed...

I ran into a youtube video where this guy spoke for 5 minutes without blinking about the Simpsons and stuff. It sort of creeped me the fuck out, but I checked his sources and started to understand what was happening. This is another reason why I've become disillusioned with science. It does not have the capacity to test out these things. Stuff like this goes beyond it's scope.
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Honestly, everyone is self interested. The problem is that there are weak dudes who will accept the terms of her romantic engagement. Allow her to live at home and eat off of him, while still not taking care of the house. If men as a whole (not just our little society) didn't allow this then it wouldn't be talked about.

They allow it so there is nothing to be done other then showing those particular type of women that that shit doesn't fly around here.
I can agree with you here. Others have made ignorant posts about the solution being throwing a few millions at congress. There are billions to be made by the corrupt court systems taking men to the cleaners. Until laws change, men should put their foot down, and declare no to marriage. No to weddings. No to a wife. Most females today are little girls rather than women. They cannot cook, clean, provide value, they dont need a man until her friends are married or having children. Being a push over is what gets men in these positions but, the current legal system is a female power play once a man is married by bringing the government into your relationship.

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I said the complex. I should clarify that the complex over here is a mini town. There is this big ass hill that leads to the entrance if it snows the road is impassible. I then live about 6-7 blocks inside the complex away from that entrance.
A woman asked me when i will get married. I just said I am not interested in that right now but, I will let you know when I get there. This is a reframe I continue to use. Why tell her fuck no? It dismisses their being an option or her friends. There are alternatives to the general consensus and norm. There are those happily married and men who were not fucked over by a woman or a corrupt court system. The problem is that, the situation is so miniscule, the scenarios are the anomaly rather than something quantifiable. If you were to chart data, it would be so insignificant, it would be even pointless. A woman can be unfaithful, procreate with multiple men, raise children from these men as if they were yours, and court systems will pan handle to female privilege in the form of spousal and child support. If someone were to go to the mafia to perform a hit, this would be deemed evil but, from a financial vantage point, what is the cheaper economical option?

In Before V declares me a psycho!
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I do online dating and have been getting the women to meet me at the store down by the entrance. Like I told Neo in another thread I don't have them come directly here because it's a blind date from the internet and you never know what you're going to get. In another thread I get into how I've combined PU with my marketing skills to develop a lead conversion system for online dating which brings me a consistent % of customers aka pussy. I don't go into details like I said to you before. I don't want guys using my shit and making it ineffective. All I have to do is send messages to all of the hottest women and I yield a high conversion rate.
Are yous till doing PU? Actually cold approach PU?
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As far as the depressed thing, I don't feel unhappy. I wake up and jump in the air then descend to the earth and land in the ocean to Dory saying "just keep swimming" a few other things, then I do my quick workout I invented (I just added pull ups in the mix after discovering my shoulders were becoming bigger than my biceps and researching pushups, I needed to add chin ups to hit my back and biceps). where-to-get-started-vt186948.html

Followed by some meditation. I go into a building that has many doors. Behind each door is a nonsensical story. I review these stories to keep information fresh in my head. Nonsensical stories are memory pegging techniques I learned a while back while I was on an unlimited memory super learning kick. If you don't review the stories on a consistent basis the memories fade. The first 2 weeks you have to look over them every day then you can taper it to once a week then once a month. I keep records of books I've read in here.

This has nothing to do with my IQ, and everyone has this ability. There is just a ton of upfront work you have to do. First learning memory pegging. Then creating the Vault. At first it's very hard to translate the information from the books into the story, but after practicing a while you expand your peg vocabulary and then it becomes as automatic as taking notes.

The part the asshole marketer doesn't teach you is that the memories will fade if you don't make them impactful enough and/or review them on a regular basis. I lost a ton of information at first and wasted many hours thinking once I wrote something down I had it forever. He doesn't teach you to create the vault either. It's an idea I stole from Sherlock Holmes so I could keep all of the books organized and keep track of what needs to be reviewed when.

I then calm myself and go over what needs to be accomplished for the day.

Then and jump on my laptop and focus the entire day on what needs to get done. I take a break every 4 hours or so to eat then get right back to it. I haven't taken the time to tend to other things such as hygiene and cleaning my apartment, because I stopped caring about anything else besides getting money. I haven't been on a date in a very long time. Not out of anything but choice.

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. This is not an established routine I've been doing for years or something. I've been at this 100% money focus thing for about 17 days now. I think I took a shower sometime during those 17 days but I am not sure. I'll scrub under my arms or balls if they start to smell to keep myself from getting distracted though.

My new years resolution is "Hustle Hard" I'm going as hard as I can. I still talk with the lawyer chick in my social circle for some basic human interactions. She is into all of this financial freedom stuff and gives me free legal advice whenever I want. I like that I made her into a friend earlier and made her devoted to me.

I cut the massage therapist and weedman off because they are just frivolous entertainment, and I need to focus. I love to smoke and that girls fingers are magical, but I need to focus. After this lead merchant machine is set up and generating a profit I'll come up for air and start playing again.

This is a choice I made, not through some inability to get women. I heard a quote that I'm living in 2015.

"You hustling backwards if your chasing a bitch. Stupid. Chase the money, they come with the shit."
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There is a book called, A First Rate Madness which pertains to many great leaders succeeding despite their mental health issues. Similar to a book called AntiFragile where these particular stressors actually make a person become great and handle circumstances such as war or leading their people. Great reads.
I'll check them out. I'm always interested in getting my hands on new material, even if 98% of it is stuff I'm already aware of. The 2% are gems.
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Paradox my good friend. I think PU is not the best system nor the most effective system to dating but, it supersedes the passive dating roll typically honed by the opposite sex. It is paradoxical that a man takes on a core purpose, he has a passion, a dedication toward something in life that he deems great then himself. Despite the outcome of a desired outcome and achievement, you burn the boats, and really go for whatever it is you want. You feel it in your points a particular outcome but, you are not diminished regardless of the results.
You should try Adam Lyons Social Circle game...but I don't know if it's still available to the public. I signed up as soon as I saw the ad. He did that scarcity mentality salesman tactic of saying "this is only available to a limited number of people... blah blah" you know that typical bullshit to create a sense of urgency. ABC salesman stuff. But a few weeks later I checked the home page, and it looks like he in fact does not sell the program anymore. It makes me feel sort of special :P .

Anyway, social circle game is a step above PU. You're infiltrating social circles like James Bond and he teaches you how to not destroy other peoples circles (which is actually extremely easy to do. it's frightening), but befriend the key people so that their circle joins yours. I don't want to spark a debate as to if this is a Carrot in a persons face or not. If you don't know the process I don't want to hear your opinion.

Still, I think other people teach social circle game so check it out. It's very powerful, and is not really a Pick Up system. More of a system for gaining and managing friends.
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I think the ways of Western Society are ineffective as things that have true intrinsic value cannot be mass marketed and exploited. Things like love, friendship, that feeling of having pulled some incredible woman the night before and that walk or drive home afterward. Desire is exploited. Something like yoga or meditation that has actual intrinsic value can be done for free but, this is not promoted in our culture and implemented into our education system. If our thoughts were not taken so seriously, how much less mental health and illness would there be?

Again, as I said to V, I simply do not care what people think of me. fat or attractive women; i simply do not care what they think of me.
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The Almighty Dollar, it's a force in and of it'self. This isn't The Almighty I was talking about earlier btw. What can I say... Joe every time someone asks you where you're from you don't answer. Just give a ballpark: What continent do you live on?
What does it matter? The court systems are currently unjust where I reside and where you reside. Despite our differences, I do not wish the full extent of the unjust corrupt legal system to unleash on you in the present day or a near future. I assure you though, if you meet your demise, you will spend your days as a curmudgeon under a bare light bulb.
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Money isn't everything, I am just laser targeting my focus to get this area of my life handled. I could always make friends. I then handled self defense (Marines Corps), then women, and now I'm on the money stage. Well I thought I had "Money" handled by getting my degree and being better than everyone else at my job, but that's the equivalent to being an AFC in my opinion. Next is love. Finally, I'll combine them all to form a legacy.

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No. It is not everything but, I have zero intention in on giving what I have or own away to female privy or privilege. I can share my life with a woman once she has established her being worth while to do so. This takes time. I did PU because I want more options, I want choice, and I want to empower myself to overcome sticking points. I am not here to be the next PU superstar on the forums. I am not going to get rapey in order to say I did everything I could and she was not interested. Like me or dont. Some woman will. I want to spend time with women who like me. No tactics or bullshit into fucking her head up into liking me. I am not going to chop down her self esteem.
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I understand these nerds because I am for all intense and purposes a nerd myself. I grew up playing stuff like starcraft and warcraft and diablo. I tried to get WOW but my mom wouldn't let me. I'll have to thank her for that one one day. Gameboy trying to be the pokemon master. I tried dungeons and dragons but didn't like the time commitment, and the dungeon master was an ass so it gave me a bad impression. I still play magic the gathering, and I am trying to take the MTGO world championship this year.

But, I can kick a person's ass if they try to bully me and I can also get girls on queue. These are skills I didn't grow up with. I didn't have a home environment that cultivated these abilities either. In fact my environment had the worse bullies of my life. A hate filled, manipulative mother, and criminal brothers. No father.

These guys have no excuses in my book. I don't respect weakness. I don't accept the excuses that weak people give out. The answers already exist in the world.

If you say so. If you were born disfigured or in some accident needing facial reconstructive surgery and or had your face ripped off by a gorilla, all your petty tactics in the world or the next wont change shit. PU is a numbers game. Yes, I know this cause Tyler knows this. Some are + or - in this life. Some have it. Others do not and some just do not have the courage to pursue. This is Darwinism weeding out the weakest genes; survival of the fittest.


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Joe that's the paradox, and the reason I bring this up is because other PUAs should think about this as well.
Actually, i brought up paradox but continue.
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Due to my new epiphany about caring.

Has your heart been severed from love? We systematized getting women and make it so easy that honestly, they are a commodity to us. I'm talking about us who live in abundance. This isn't wrong because they sort of forced us into this position. I'm just saying. It's not fair to the ones who actually deserve the love from evolved men. Sometimes I feel sorry for women.
This difference is that, i simply do not care what people think nor what others feel. I do not intend to do harm but I am also not caring about the destruction i leave behind. I would prefer to leave women better than when i first found them but, I am not fixing her either nor do I care to try. You spoke of disgust for the weak and yet you speak of female pity. if and when a woman takes you to the cleaners, she will feel no such thing or any sort of remorse. She will likely wear a shirt that says she showers in your tears. #feminism
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How can we hope to possibly obtain love if we remain uncaring and unattached to every single one of them? But, we have to remain unattached to the outcomes of situations in order to keep our attractive identities. Being unattached and uncaring will form into a habit. The habit will be extremely hard to break and one day you will look at yourself and feel empty. Love is required. No way around that. We were never designed to live and die alone, it's not what propagates the species.
Better PUAs will form some type of attachment or they lie. I feel no such thing. This past summer, I could have pull shit my way into some girls vagina. I just do not care. I much rather pursue something more intriguing and push her towards the kind of asshole who will lie his way into having sex. Its what she wants. She wants the story. She wants to dude who does not want her. I much rather pursue women who are not just book smarts but, actually have common sense and want to engage in something meaningful. The trouble is that, I do not care whether I acquire this or not. I feel compelled so, I act in such a way but, it really does not matter.

You know how people get a oneittus? I dont know what that is. I know it points to female obsession that is irrational and even unhealthy but, I do not know from firsthand experience. I simply do not care too. I can barely make sense of anybody trying to do anything forever which contradicts common sense as well as reality. We all die. People are mostly fragile. Most systems are fragile. As good a game JB may have, he crumbled when called out on his bullshit, and even if he believes it, instead of taking the Sean Connery MY OPINION HAS NOT CHANGED approach; he was like a lamb to the slaughter. Just ask feminists... women will destroy you.


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Umm bill Cosby beat Julian for the most hated man a while ago. Just saying. No one really knows about Julian
Yeah, but Bill has a strong frame. He's just accepted it, and is owning it. He has a new movie that's a giant middle finger to the establishment.
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the sexodus article was similar in context.

It is quite evident of low level consciousness and uneducated women for a lack of better words.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-39117.html

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-39117.html

http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17584

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tItc6VnBHqk

Some of the comments were in suggesting to take her back after full on pics and vids of blatant infidelity. Something I want to point out is that, the current scenarios do not promote women being quality people as a man will foot their bills or worst case scenario, there is social assistance to save her from handling responsibility. The current system does not promote development but rather stunt all of the following. Granted, these are isolated incidents but, I assure you, there is tons of these types of women. I have met several as I have mentioned during PU.


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