There's this rather skinny guy in my class who makes women of my class smile and flock to. Now that he is seen with the most attractive women in my study, other men try to make friends with him, it all looks like the prototype of the mystery method.

I talked to one girl from that crowd once, long before he became their center and it was throughout uncomfortable to be around her. In short, she is full of herself. When I met her for the first time, she tried to make me invest strongly. Of course I didn't, I always only gave her something if she gave something. But I found myself having to give more to "keep" her: whenever I ended the conversation, she did not reinitiate it. As I said, she is full of herself and thinks, she was the shit because of her looks.

After some time I thought to myself: "You know what girl, go fuck yourself, I am not your dancing monkey" and cut off any conversation. She didn't even notice as it seemed, as other guys immediately flocked to her, especially that one guy.

But as a man, seeing her every day, of course I became interested in her again.

It's this situation that whatever you tell to yourself, you just have to admit to yourself that in reality, if she is good looking she can get away with anything. Punishing her for bad behaviour is just being rendered useless by the next guy, who showers her with compliments.

What I notice: there is always this weird mood that she has even if she is smiling. She never laughs without control, she always looks a little bit angry and belligerent.

I am not going to make friends with some man, because they flock to him; he does not own them. I also know, that this girl and all other good looking girls couldn't care less about me if I don't approach them, so to change anything about this, I have to become active again. One part of me thinks: I would never accept this behaviour from my friends and the other part thinks: Damn, she looks good, I need to be with her.

But I know that going up again also is being prevented by some other point: what do I talk about? The studies? "Soooo, did you prepare XY today?". Really not.

What could I do?

I hate it so much that I have to re-initiate every single conversation with girls in my studies. And if I do nothing, they do shit. Neither do they come to my place nor chat me up. All they do is sit there and wait for someone to entertain them. And if I don't do anything, guess what, I am on my own again.

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I have been doing pickup since 1st of March in 2005.

Game can be a lonely lonely world if you let it...

Don't be pessimistic. Instead be grateful that you can use your skills (or future skills) to become that guy in the class.

As shallow as it may seem, embrace that the popular guy in class has a trait that you can learn whether he learned it from books and forums or naturally. Learn what you can from him and move on.

I have a strong feeling the negativity inside your head is killing you a lot more than any of the attitude the girls in class have. Brighten up. The world isn't so bleak!

Game girls outside of class too and you will develop a more abundant belief system.

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How would you learn from him?

What do I talk about?

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I have been doing pickup since 1st of March in 2005.

He just gave you a solid answer.

You're being passive aggressive

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How would you learn from him?

What do I talk about?

EDIT: I updated my signature.

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I have been doing pickup since 1st of March in 2005.

And yet your thread is about basic shit.

Reading a few PU ebooks in 2005 doesnt count as experience

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Your tag says you have been gaming since 2005 yet your asking questions like "what do I talk about with her" and other complete noob stuff. It's one thing to have some basic understanding but poor implementation, but you don't seem to have any basic knowledge. Your best bet is to read some of the basic pickup books recommended on this site before posting these type of day 1 questions. Sorry to be mean but this is the most helpful advice you are going to get at your level.

Tell me what you would tell them or her in my situation. Because I haven't found my situation in any pickup book, if you have, point me to it.

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I have been doing pickup since 1st of March in 2005.

your situation as described is the same one every new guy goes through in the learning process. Start with DDA "77 laws of success with woman" work on that everyday for two weeks and your basic understanding of game will improve about 10x fold from where it is now. Other then that this website has a good reference section to basic PUA books in the FAQ section.

I think you are like most guys, you are a "PUA dabbler". You read here and there, log into the forum on occasion and basically get involved for a short time, especially when you get frustrated. PUA isn't a casual endeavor, unless you are going to take the time to actually change your habits and be proactive you will make no progress. You must be very dedicated to PUA to see any improvement, if you aren't ready to take it seriously please don't start, it is a waste of your time and your frustration will continue.

detox75, I know, it's hard to admit that you have no idea what to reply.

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I have been doing pickup since 1st of March in 2005.

sure, also you should check out the "best Pickup line" part of this site, because really that's all you need. A snappy reply or a good pickup line. Problem fixed - good luck!

Why can't you answer my question then if it is so easy?

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I have been doing pickup since 1st of March in 2005.

What does this mean? You talked with her. Do you mean talked to her in class and never outside of it? Have you ever met up with her outside of the classroom? Your description of your problem is so vague, I'm not even sure if you know the girls name.

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Because I agree with CdHarders you tit.

No wonder you struggle with women with this anger issue of yours...

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This may be the most English thing anyone has ever said on here

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I think you'd be better off looking outside of pickup, to normal, conversational things, rather than pickup geared things. I'd suggest Leil Lowndes' "How to Instantly Connect with Anyone". Within the sphere of "game", I think 60YOC is more the area you need to focus on.
Go for the girls who like you right from the start instead of trying to turn around disinterested girls.

Edit:
Ok, looking at your post history, the problem is, you're not exactly interested in hearing anything other than what you want to hear.
First off: Followed by: And some absolutely bizarre things As for 10 years....

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