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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:31 pm 
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I disagree about exes; think it sharing about previous grief can help. Honestly, sharing about exes helped me understand what my husband wanted in a wife. He told me his ex lacked affection and was distant; I shared that my ex was prone to the forum-beloved "freeze-outs", anytime I raised a problem, so he could keep me quiet. As a result, we agreed that no one will withdraw affection/freeze-out the other. Sometimes, instead of making your own mistakes, you can learn from the mistakes of others.
Of course, it takes maturity to listen about someone who has "been there before you", but keeping hush doesn't change the history, it just prevents you from learning from it.

And regarding bonuses - things that are hidden have the very bad habit of popping up, at very inconvenient times. And their very virtue of being hidden makes them sketchy and suspicious. You can say you have gotten a bonus and still keep it to yourself, it's yours. I thought 21-st century relationships were supposed to be about abstract concepts, not tangible assets.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:52 pm 
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I disagree about exes; think it sharing about previous grief can help. Honestly, sharing about exes helped me understand what my husband wanted in a wife. He told me his ex lacked affection and was distant; I shared that my ex was prone to the forum-beloved "freeze-outs", anytime I raised a problem, so he could keep me quiet. As a result, we agreed that no one will withdraw affection/freeze-out the other. Sometimes, instead of making your own mistakes, you can learn from the mistakes of others.
Of course, it takes maturity to listen about someone who has "been there before you", but keeping hush doesn't change the history, it just prevents you from learning from it.
First of all if he was the type that he would pull a freeze-out he would had already. So consider yourself lucky. Also just because he doesn't pull them on you right now doesn't mean he won't try to do it in the future.. in case there is a mistress. You can't predict that. He knows though your weak point. If he wants to hurt you he can. At the moment he loves you and respects you so he won't do anything.
You could had told him that you don't like mind games without mentioning your exes .. and you could had talked even about freeze outs without revealing anything about the past. Then you could had watched and observed his behaviour.
For you it worked mentioning about your ex. For others it doesn't. Until you know that you are with the right person that won't use it against you, you need to be cautious.
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And regarding bonuses - things that are hidden have the very bad habit of popping up, at very inconvenient times. And their very virtue of being hidden makes them sketchy and suspicious. You can say you have gotten a bonus and still keep it to yourself, it's yours. I thought 21-st century relationships were supposed to be about abstract concepts, not tangible assets.
If a girl is just a girlfriend she has no access to your finances. Until you know that she is serious about you, you don't want to risk having drama because she doesn't understand that you want to save up that extra money to be able to buy a house one day and you don't want to go for those expensive holidays.
If you marry her then by all means talk about your finances, however, some people might be great partners but not mature with money. So what do you do in these cases? What if you have children with them? You need to think about what would be the consequences, the pros and cons and act accordingly.
Of course you need to be mature and without a big ego ( ie I am a man so I am the boss and I will have full control. That's just wrong). If saving up a small amount of money from bonuses could be beneficial on a rainy day then go for it. Lots of people do it anyway .. either from the present or old generations.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:00 pm 
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@ PEBBLE and CharlesFinley

This is a quote from the book - "How to be the 3% man..." a very good one book. Perhaps you've heard it.

"The old saying goes: Curiosity killed the cat. Cats are curious
creatures. They will keep checking something out as long as they are
curious about it. Once they have figured out just what that something
is, they become bored and walk away. The same thing is true with
women. You need to keep them wondering. You need to keep them
curious. If you tell them everything about you and they can see all
there is to know, the mystery is gone and they move on."

That is exactly what I mean by not sharing everything about yourself.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:08 pm 
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This is where i copy and paste some lyrics from a song that suggests to be honest...

Let the thread die already. You're not going to change my mind. You have a bunch of opinions and different views. Take it as you please.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:21 pm 
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Do you share the self help information that you are taking?

Something tells me its not good idea to tell about all self help books and programs that I read.
Especially those that are entirely and only for men.
I have pondered on this myself. I have had a complex about self-help books which probably stemmed from the fact that I didn’t always feel good about reading them - a lot of them have cheesy titles, are full of cross-promotion of authors other books, aren’t exactly literary masterpieces and are heavily centered on a materialistic view of the world which i don’t agree with. Nevertheless I found great motivation and ideas from them and could cope with all the simplistic and embarrassing parts in my mind. This however affected my confidence on some level - I wouldn't read “how to bang/get rich book” on a bus as confidently as I would read Nietzsche. One is thought of as for weak weird people as the other is cited in a lot of “must read” books as something divine. One is often written with over simplistic style embarrassing the reader out of its ideas while the other tries to be so stylish it often becomes incomprehensible to the reader. But most of the time they both try to explain how to be above yourself and act on your inherent values - their philosophies are very similar.
As you can see it took a lot of reframing for me to be over the bad reputation self-help books have in some parts of the society and it can’t be applied to every imaginable topic that can come up. The difference now is that I have an answer when someone is giving me shit about self-help/strong view to argue on. Something that should have been avoided before because of the lack of confidence can now be used for my advantage.
So maybe instead of avoiding some topics work on your confidence regarding these topics, since as we all know and always forget is “it’s not what you say its how you say it”.


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@ PEBBLE and CharlesFinley

This is a quote from the book - "How to be the 3% man..." a very good one book. Perhaps you've heard it.

"The old saying goes: Curiosity killed the cat. Cats are curious
creatures. They will keep checking something out as long as they are
curious about it. Once they have figured out just what that something
is, they become bored and walk away. The same thing is true with
women. You need to keep them wondering. You need to keep them
curious. If you tell them everything about you and they can see all
there is to know, the mystery is gone and they move on."

That is exactly what I mean by not sharing everything about yourself.

Congratulations. You've found a piece of literature that you'd like to interpret as relevant.

You may now ignore everything we have said because this has been published somewhere. It must be true if it has been published.

Clearly you see what you want to see. You have proven this time and time again.

I don't understand why you continue to ask for advice, actually.

Every thread ends the same way.

Someone tells you what you want to hear.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:56 am 
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@ PEBBLE and CharlesFinley

This is a quote from the book - "How to be the 3% man..." a very good one book. Perhaps you've heard it.

"The old saying goes: Curiosity killed the cat. Cats are curious
creatures. They will keep checking something out as long as they are
curious about it. Once they have figured out just what that something
is, they become bored and walk away. The same thing is true with
women. You need to keep them wondering. You need to keep them
curious. If you tell them everything about you and they can see all
there is to know, the mystery is gone and they move on."

That is exactly what I mean by not sharing everything about yourself.

Congratulations. You've found a piece of literature that you'd like to interpret as relevant.

You may now ignore everything we have said because this has been published somewhere. It must be true if it has been published.

Clearly you see what you want to see. You have proven this time and time again.

I don't understand why you continue to ask for advice, actually.

Every thread ends the same way.

Someone tells you what you want to hear.

Don't get offended. I take a lot of your advices and listen to what everybody has to say.
However I'm not like the average frustrated guy asking questions. Most of the time I have my opinion but I ask to see other people points of view. Sometimes I agree, some times I don't. With some things I agree, with somethings I don't. Don't hate me because I have a point of view.

I have quite some experience but obviously I don't know everything and always striving to improve.

And once again - I respect you and your advices as well as the other guys too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:09 pm 
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I think somethings should be kept to yourself. I don't actually believe that those on this thread, despite what they say here, completely share EVERYTHING. I will never buy that. We all have our secrets, don't care what any of you say to the contrary.


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