I found a wing online and cold approached at the mall today. 4 girls ignored me, 1 talked to me for a minute before pretending to get a phone call. My wing pulled a girl on his 2nd approach and basically had a 1 hour date in the mall.

Last week I approached several girls at a bar with the help of local lair and didn't get blown out like this, and of course didn't flirt either, just talked.
THe deal is I'm about to turn 28 and although I look young I'm still a virgin only been on a couple dates.
I need to change fast, but the social anxiety/depression discourages me every rejection.
I have felt suicidal the past few hours

I`ve known about pickup since early last year also and wasted a year doing very little because I was afraid to even start even with a friend.
I really can`t afford to waste any more of my life not doing this.

I think u need to work on ur INNER GAME. The fact that u r saying this actually means that u dont have that confidence n self belief in urself (wich is not exactly ur fault as it happens when u get rejected fr some time).So when u approach this thing actually gets reflected frm u (ur inner belief abt urself) due to wich u might be getting rejected.
My advice is work on ur inner game n keep doin it n just believe tht even though its not working but at some point its gonna click at once (if u r doing it right). experiemced it personally.Its like starting a car in winters.U pull the choke, car wont strt. n u do it again n again..after a few atrempts it strts

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I made a video about that issue i will be uploading soon.

But here's my breakdown of whats happening to you

You're starting to take action in the game, and you're realizing is not as easy as you thought, giving the rejections/girls not being nice.

But guess what?

Ive approached thousands of women, and i've been blown out thousands of times.

You know how i feel?

Good.

You know why?

Because by complaining and giving up im not going to achieve what i want.

Everytime you get rejected enstead of complaining you should be learning lessons, why did you get rejected.

And guess what, it never ends. You'll always get rejected no matter how good you get, but you'll also eventually get the results you want.

You need to stay strong throughout all the bullshit and persevere, because NOTHING will get you what you want except yourself, and by stayin strong and moving forward and always finding a way, you'll win.

To truely get results in this game, you need to tighten up your mind, and understand rejection is a part of the learning process.

Once you become indiffrent to it, you'll start truly learning , improving, and ultimately getting results.

You think kobe bryant was born knowing how to play great basketball?

Why do you think kobe bryant spends so many hours in the gym shooting, missing shots, getting blocked, and ultimately perfecting his game?

Do the same, be a winner, not a whiner.

Good luck.

I got a video on this coming up soon on my channel where ill explain it more indepth

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Your posts wreaks of defeatist attitude. Your approaches in the mall were already decided that you would get blown out. I agree, your inner game is non existent right now. You didn't even show up the the race (in your head)

The fact that your wing got an insta-date and you didn't, did you realise he was probably a positive guy right? - THAT was the difference between you and him.

If I was you, I would spend some money and treat yourself to a nice sexy escort and lose your V plate already. Hopefully that will fill your scrotum with balls full of spunk.

If i was going to kill myself, I for sure would at least visit an escort to see what it feels like so you have nothing to lose.

Just don't get addicted, see a therapist, tackle your core problems and change your life already.

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Well your wing sounds like he is someone you can learn from, but doesn't sound like he cares much about
you as a person. Just wants to show off like a dick head.

By the way I'm 31, so 28 isn't shit.

You need to find a wing who can honest tell you what is wrong with you. (Coach). Or save up some money to take one of those bootcamps. You need constructive criticism or you will end up going nuts.

ok I actually did go to a daygame bootcamp by a well known local coach. Let's just say I was constantly insulted by him but what he said was truth.

I approached around 15 with him and the problem was definately too large for hiim to help me do anything with so he stopped after 2 of the 4 hours.
COnfidence is basically lacking. In my speaking voice, eye contact, body language.
He said night game is better for newbies. So I'm taking a bootcamp with him in that, really though i can see now it was an extra cash grab and the night bootcamp is a group not 1-on-1 like this so he can basically ignore me there.

So, approximately 30 approaches now and ignored each one. Called a pussy and berated constantly by my instructor (although he is correct and he himself does alright).

But how is this supposed to make one confident? I don't think blindly approaching even 500 would make a difference honestly.
Not to mention i live in Vancouver, the city with the coldest bitches. Even the instructor got told "boyfriend" every time but once in his approaches I watched.

You're so negative. I would refuse to do business with you if I was an instructor.

You don't want to put in the hardwork.

You should pay for a therapist and come back to pickup when you sorrt your attitude out

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I am 30 years old now. I only slept with prostitutes.

I am a beginner who doesnt get great results right now.

I know how you feel.

You need to do it a lot.. 100s of times. Intensity is the key. With enough intensity you wont feel rejection and wont ponder about it.

The problem is that some people do pick ups, now and then.. and then their mind generalises and rationalises from the little evidence they got.

whats up, alyien
I'm sorry about your experience with the instructor... but well, you said that he also got rejected many times.
so if he, as an instructor got rejected, wouldn't it be the most normal thing in the world for you to also get rejected?

I've actually had students which were in a similar situation as you. (I actually been in the same situation LOL...) .
the easiest thing for people to say is just "do it more" "you are not doing it enough" "you lack the motivation or the will".

well yes-it, all start with the will. I've had a 19-year-old student that for some reason decided to go out alone only, no matter how hard it was. he is on his way to great success! but remember, you are for your own. don't compare you to other people. or at least if you do, compare also the "negative" things.
It's hard for everybody!

to be honest, I don't know you enough so I cant tell you what kind of help you need. my roommate was very angry towards women and people in general and through hard work in field, succeeding, he got over it.

a few years ago, I, just like you, was searching for the answer in forums, writing about my problems over and over again and I got the same answer as you did here. I couldn't understand it because I wasn't ready for the change! some time later I -was- ready. I just couldn't keep living the way I did!

you first need to surround yourself with positive environment-find a cool wing. you need to appreciate the small successes. and you need to lower your bar for what you considered a success. for most regular guys even approaching is a success!

last, set your goals properly. set goals that will make the fire in you burn, and once you are more focused it will be easier infield.

good luck man!

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tbh tho girls seem to love me on text so if i could somehow harnass that conversationally...

I bet I can guess what you are doing wrong. Approaching girls who are too young which makes you look fucking creepy at 30 years old (contrary to popular belief girls want to bang someone their own age) and secondly you are going for Hbs who are way out of your league so no matter how hard you try to chat them up YOU WILL FAIL. Get a fucking clue dude and stop embarrassing yourself.

28 is not old at all - one day you will look back on this and realise that 28 is pretty young. try put yourself 10 year sin the future looking back and you will think "i was silly thinking 28 is old".
Theirs plenty of females - single ones that frequent bars and clubs at this age.

Theirs also a post somebody put up a few months ago which was very similar to yours - he was about the same age asking if he was too old. Perhaps do a search and try look for that one as it was pretty extensive. The basic message from the other people was that the age was not a problem it was more so his attitude.

I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience with your coach - anybody who gets paid money to teach something should not insult their students. I think you should expose who this low life was as he gave you bad service from what you said.

Lol I went nightgame today. COuldn't get any girl to talk to me and th few that did treated me like a joke.
I have huge anger problems so eventually I just walked around saying "hi can you please reject me" or "hey bitch how's it going".

I dunno how you guys put up with the modern woman. These sluts really aren't worth shit but society has them on a frickin pedestal so they think theyre all that.

Funny thing is, the dude with strong Apu indian accent did better than me his first time at a club and got a girl's number.

I'm done. there are winners and losers in this world and some people were meant to put themeselves underground.
No way is life worth living if the whole time my fucking body only thinks about this horrible gender 24/7.

Lol I look like I'm 18 and I am dating an 18 year old right now. jealous?

And honestly I would look way too young with a girl my age. sounds like bullshit but even the dating coach couldn't believe how old i was (thought i was way younger than him at 24). I still get i'ded to buy liquor in Canada where the age is 19+.

If I had any game though this would be a god-send. Fucking 19 year old girls every week. Sadly I suck horribly and after this girl leaves me (soon im sure) I'll prob end my miserable life.
Too bad, anyone else would have made better use of this youthful advantage. I already live the life of an old celibate man.
So yes, I may be too old. But I don't look too old which is what really matters. My 19 year old wing and I don't look out of place with each other.