I don't feel like going trough my browser history to find the links. Basically JW was going wild. He learned some basic music production skills (according to him he's not basic, but who knows I haven't seen anything he's produced) then sent out advertisements lying to women saying that he was doing a project for MTV. He then created a Social Circle of attractive video models and singers and dancers and gamed them.

He said he didn't lie 100% because he did actually make music with these women and submitted it to multiple networks. He started posted up proof of the things he was doing with these women and one of them got wind. She threatened him and he took down her stuff, but he still has the proof. Then his current GFs father contacted him and told him he was going to press charges because JW had video proof of his pull and lay on his blog about his GF. She actually didn't talk to her father about it. Her hating ass friend did. So Justin took down his old blog all together and now only paying members get to see the full videos n the domino affect.

Anyway, his competitors took advantage of the situation and began to spread lies General Population of guys who Versalis says is in the PUA community just because they are aware the community exists. They twisted the story and painted him as a fraud who paid actresses to be in his videos. In my google search I found the emails he solicited the girls with, the girls who complained comments on the situation, and JW addressing this stuff himself which lined up with the emails and what the actual women were saying.
Of course you can... We're talking about percentiles of success here at this point Joe. Just walk up to the hottest girl in the club with no social proof and go direct on her. She'll be forced to make a snap choice based on those factors I listed earlier, and Neo summarized for the short attention spanned readers out there.

Vs. don't worry about pulling her and use her status to propel you with momentum into pulling any other available girl in the club. Before you disagree test it out. While talking to the hot girl look around and watch how many IOIs you get. It's ridiculous how competitive and jealous women are.
The pen name on my book is Monkey D. Luffy. I've only paid for 4 products, all top of the line. I don't just buy stuff. I'll read about 3-5 reviews on average. I obtained JW after reading his free theories online and comparing his proof (the youtube videos) against the theories and proof of all of the best day gamers I could find in the world. I won't name any names, but trust that I looked at everyone who is anyone in the day game world before I made my choice of a day game guru.

Having the level of skill I have with women, while watching the day game from everyone else but JW I saw that these dudes were basically just approaching and escalating on women who were already good to go. I couldn't learn anything from them since I possessed that skill already, and IMO better than most of them.

In JWs videos I saw a bunch of resistance that would have cause me to walk away many many times. His was a different animal and it impressed me. Like I said many times before, I have a unique perception in reality. When I watched his infields I used the eye of an expert. I can tell the women aren't acting. That's me though, you don't have to agree in the least.
Joe this is contradictory to your stance of "looks matter" and guys being unable to use PU to get certain classes of women. You yourself said this many many times about PU. I can put up a bunch of quotes from you, but you know what you've typed on this thread, and forum.

Granted you may be talking about abundance in a way that there are loads of those other women to choose from, but that is still a limited pool since you don't have access to everything available. In order to make you not seem like you're contradicting yourself. I'm thinking that your perspective is you have access the the 99% women so therefore you have an abundance, and who cares about the 1%?

That's a fine mentality to posses. I'm of the 1% not financially yet, but in terms of the knowledge I posses the athleticism I have, and the prowess of my brain. I'm actually in the 1% of the 1%. I'm not too impressed with celebrities or millionaires or any other human for that matter due to the truths I've accepted and tested about the world. I'm at 90 easy push-ups now btw, if you read about my morning workout in my FR.

That being said, for the most part if a woman has obtained that status or wealth on her own it says something about the strength of her character. So that's why I feel only women of that level earned the right to be with me forever. Even though that's my goal I am still open minded to a diamond in the rough.

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extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

Joe, I'm confused tbh. I don't know what kinda woman you're looking for or whether any woman fits your standards. You don't like the kk types who sleep around, but you don't want the independent women as their motto is I don't need a man. You don't want the gang bang girls or the girls who want to settle down and have kids. It sounds like you would prefer a woman with her own shit, but then I'd think not because you don't like the I don't need a man thing. Or maybe you'd like a more traditional woman who takes care of her man and all that. But then I'd think you won't because you don't want to be used as a provider. So if you met a traditional girl who cooks and cleans, you'd not like her because most likely she would have less resources. So I'm confused.

I've met women who are professional, don't seem to sleep around and also seem to conform pretty well to traditional gender roles.

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If JW had a free tour, would I check it out? Probably. A paid event? Nope. Not will there is fraudulent activity or ambiguity around his business model.

It just sounds messy for her to actually consider him as a legitimate option.
It doesn't sound great you must agree? I would feel foolish if the model I was following turned out to be the joke of the town.
The problem as with Sweater in the game was that, he was running game, and it back fired the way it does on most men. They cannot replicate the behavior into a way of life. Monogamy contradicts this way of life as it does with marriage which in the event it ends, she files for divorce, she takes half your net worth even in cases of fifty fifty parenting. I am perfectly fine with her snap choice. I am glad they made those choices when I look back as to where these women are right now. I would not be happy and nor are they in their current state.
I have. Yes, having viable options comes from a place of abundance vs a place of scarcity. I know this. I am experiencing this now as I have options. My phone is blowing up with options right now. I keep meeting more but, the problem is that, I do not worry about issues with reproducing my current behavior. This is 100% me. I meditate. I read. I do some yoga which is full of girls. I workout quite a bit too. I do three days a week More and more girls are into working out which offers loads of options.
The only stuff I have is The Game, I attended some rsd free tours, and I was allowed to a paid event for free one time which was pretty cool. In my experience, most who go to events and obsess over PU are terrible at it. They read tons of shit, they go to events but, they have lame excuses why they do not go out that night or ever. Even this forum, I stopped using for awhile because nobody goes out after they send several PMs looking for a wing. It is pretty gay. In the people I have met and gone out with, I have noticed a lot of them tend to be a bit odd or socially inept. Many have theories and they again do not go out. I am not saying I need to find the greatest PU ever but, approaching should not be that big a deal if you have been doing it for a long time. Having other topics and interests in life wouldn't kill people either.
Share something. Put up a avi of a personal experience. I already did this and took it down cause I do not care to e-brag.
So, there is no way of saying something that does not sound racist. This is a disclaimer. If you or anybody reading is a sensitive sally, stop reading now. I have Jamaican friends. I have Italian friends. I have friends of all nationalities. My black friends are very aggressive with women. Women seem to go with it. My European friends are very social. I notice these different things. I have also notice, the style of game my black friends may use on women works for them. If other men were to do it, it would be inauthentic so, I do believe JW does have a authentic style. Also I feel the need to add if you were to be a biologist who makes a observation of race, this is a scientific finding, and therefore, it is justifiable. If you make a blatant blanket statement, it can be racist or stereotypical. I also have black friends who are very chill and not all that aggressive with women.
I am not sure where you are going with this? Looks mattering is a obvious inevitability. I do PU as a way of life. The women like or don't like me. I take Alex approach, there is no reason why I am not more then enough. The same goes for you and everyone for that matter yet, PU works on male insecurity pushing the notion they need more, some routine, some flashy outfit, peacock, theory, or some crap.

I would link the bonsai article but, it would get flagged here cause its on another site. Search it.
Nor do you. You have access to what is available within your environment. The alternative is to travel which I recommend. I also recommend doing PU but, not chasing down every guy with his hand out suggesting he will turn you into the man who humps everything and gets no rejection.
I don't know what the hell you mean by 1% of 1%?
I totally agree with this. The trick being; to do as Elliot Hulse suggest, be that strongest version of yourself. Instead of projecting onto women what they should be. I am still going to pick and choose as to what I deem as acceptable behavior in my life. It is about intimacy and there is definitely a sure way amount of liability if you have the wrong woman. If you have a promiscuous woman who has loads of kills, no education, and she suckers you into raising other mens children.

I am in the same space of diamond in the rough. I want love. I am anxious in attachment and developmental theory. I use meditation and yoga to help calm my mind. I felt loads of anxiousness today. It would sound like we have very different and yet, very similar goals. In terms of PU, different lifestyle ambitions and in terms of diamond in the rough, similar goals.

Ok. I know. I am very particular.
That has you confused? KK = liability

Independent women are like the ones who just text me as I am typing this to you now. They do not need to narrate like a Robert Munch. They do not need to do like the gangbang girl; say they are not a sloot before requesting a gangbang while doing toilet cocaine.

I don't like the fact that women need to narrate this disposable man crap. These women do not say this and then provide being independent. They show their being independent and act the part ever so silently. They do not narrate not being a sloot cause her behavior is self evident. It would be needless to say such a ridiculous statement. Why project the over obvious? Was your gf projecting her not being a sloot? Independent?

What is the role of the house wife in 2015? Does such a thing exist? If you ask most ¨feminists;¨ the response is, I don't need a man. Instead of promoting independence or better yet, unity of men and women, pro M F dynamics, its cut throat. We no longer say, firemen. It is fire fighter. It is no longer police man. It is police officer. Today is so pro Anti-masculinity and anti male. Anything that seems even slightly masculine is crushed and destroyed. Jobs are lost. Reputations are ruined. Name is slandered in the media.
Lets do a rewind of your life prior to PU. What were you taught of dating? Were you told about paying for first dates? Being a good nice boy? Were you taught to lead? Taught to project your intent? Were you taught to be ashamed of your masculine essence? I feel tv and society as a whole does this to young men and boys.
There is no reason why a woman cannot do all the above, have a career, have her own ambitions, and uphold traditionalism. Even a career part time that makes some good money and she still does the mommy thing if that was what she wanted. I just have no intention of following the beaten path of being taken to the cleaners like most men. I get anxious about this so, I am trying to watch Alpha male Elliot Hulse videos instead of Mgtow or sexodus crap. I know it is there but, looking more at the law of attraction. Pull good type of people into my life instead of the bad. I don't know the ideal solution to the current issue amongst the M F dynamic. I do want to do everything in my power to put things in my favor as best as possible. A attractive woman with a six figure income, works out, ambitious, is independent, has all those qualities I spoke of, and then some. I actually partied over the holidays with such a woman.

Response to V and Joe in one:

Yes there are these types of women, I just get the impression from a Joe a negative view of women in general. Prenuptials won't work, the nice woman is only settling down after riding the cock carousel, the court will screw you over, your kids won't be yours....I mean I just couldnt date women if I thought like this. Maybe I'm just taking things out of context or Joe has an extreme writing style. I would assume that he'd think the 6 figure girl was an ex slut, as I get the impression his view of women is they're mostly this way. I don't know how you can say most women are this way, and have hope going into anything past casual sex. It just seems too negative for me, but thats just my opinion, hence confusion. I agree with some of the points, it's just taken to the extreme imo. I think V was right about most girls feminism being "girl power", not the anti male/ bodybuilder fucking way girls are presented here.

I don't think I've ever met a woman, in the U.S or the world, white black asian latina whatever who ever acted like or voiced that they didn't need a man. Maybe from a pissed off ex once after I dumped her and hit her up later. PS, aren't you black? More confused lol. Anyways, I've never seen that. Never heard even female friends say that. And that's from girls in projects of NY to girls who had money. Actually, wait, I have seen female friends post it on fb after a breakup or if they're single on V-day. But that's not applicable because that's a one time thing to act tough when single on V-day. As V said, girl power.
Never was told to be a good boy nor pay for dates nor be ashamed of being a man. But I was fortunate. I didnt come to PU years ago to fix anything, just curiosity tbh. Found out abt PU at age 20, had already been having sex, threesomes, gang bangs since 15. Heck, I was passing around chicks to friends to fuck straight up since 16 lol. But most young men and boys arent taught these things.

He is but he prefaced his comment because he was talking about multiple races then made an analogy of a nature documentary staring different races of humans being observed doing their natural mating patterns. Pretty interesting actually.

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Intense writing style and a combo of my playing devils advocate. I have linked several instances where prenups are over ruled by the corrupt western court system. Instead of pointing to just the problem, the solution I have found is to handle better quality women; something that most forums dismiss. No, I am not advocating unicorns or cherishes. I am just insinuating, if there are so called red pill men, there must be red pill women so, settling down forever is a huge deal so, that kind of woman would be ideally the best solution.
No. Now you are putting words in my mouth. I dismissed the sex of a woman who wants children now. I also dismissed the gangbang cocaine toilet girl as well. The six figure attractive independent women who workout I am progressing forward with. Whatever happens is okay with me. I just followed through with the experience. You pretty much took most of my points, put a spin on it, and claimed it as your own in respect to the % of women sleeping with the highest value of male. Zyzz was not even a rockstar or a movie star.
You are also not actively doing PU. As I stated before, my take is not about doing all these routines or PUA crap. I am not advocating or following this stuff blindly. Loads of PU on all women I find attractive. In the process, you find the good, the bad, the ugly. I have come across this quite often and less often the high income attractive woman who has won the genetic lottery and still has a great personality while going to the gym. Well, with my approach to PU, its either like me or don't followed by more PU. I am not doing routines or bf destroyers. I am not using hypnosis or NLP to manipulate women like someone attempted to say I do. The two are more effective at putting yourself under hypnosis and doing NLP to yourself. its absolutely ridiculous; the whole valentines day, and a great way for PU poaching.
Okay, lets try again. WHAT WERE YOU TAUGHTE BEFORE PU when dating women?
So, our experiences were completely different. I dated and had relations but, rarely and in spurts. PU opened up a lot more opportunities. Gang Bangs always seemed homo to me so, I never involved myself in that type of behavior. Seemed weird to me. I just cannot wrap my head around it. Sounds creepy.
So, if that was the behavior you were doing, what rational point is there for PU? The man who got that gangbang girl going nuts by shattering her self esteem was doing everything you were saying for years before settling down with a incredible woman.

Genius eh? And Canada won gold. !

Umm...I still don't agree with that point, so don't know how I can be taking it. Is the top % of men sleeping with the majority of attractive women? No. I agreed with V's distinction that in casual hookup scenarios this may be true, but that is far from what you're saying. An analogy: if you said, Mc Donald's holds 80% of the market share on fast food sales in the U.S, that doesn't equal that most of the average american's diet is Mc Donalds. As sex and relationships occur much more outside of casual hookups, same way fast food doesn't encompass all that someone eats. It's a majority, or a small piece.
What does this have to do with anything? 6 Months. Things are still the same. Women and dating haven't changed in the past 6 months. Regardless of street harassment videos or Julien. And if things HAVE changed in your opinion, fine, then everyone should only read/learn from videos and books created in the last 6 months.


I dunno...have fun, go for sex? Girl likes you, you like her, stuff happens. Enough girls start liking you = confidence with girls.
Why are you equating PU to gang banging girls? Think about that for a second. You're conflicted. You say quality should be important...there's no quality in a gang bang chick. There's no quality in chick's who fuck you because their self esteem is weakened. Quality and having standards is constantly talked about in PU. "Don't chase boring girls, leave shitty relationships, find girls who bring more to the table that their looks." Granted, its probably not you, new PU for the past couple years has been more flash game focused, make out with a chick on the dancefloor, pull her home in 30 mins, caveman her and fuck her. Then go back to the club tomorrow to find a new chick because the 1st chick is gone. The older stuff was full of talk on the importance of finding quality girls. Before, the skill was getting into a solid romantic relationship with a quality woman, whether for bf/gf, fwb or whatever. Now it's about speed and boldness.

I just turned 26 in November btw. I feel old man wtf where did my youth go? I'm almost fucking middle aged. I can't wait to unlock this lucid dreaming and experiment with time chambers.
I hear you Joe. The thing is he doesn't teach guys to do that. It's not part of his framework. Honestly I think he just wanted some top flight pussy. And I don't fault him too much because I intend on learning some photography really soon and join a couple modeling social networks and solicit the models to do photo shoots so I can game them. I won't claim to be some master photographer working for Maxim or anything like that though.

His character doesn't speak on the actual skills he's teaching guys, except to say that he is one nasty, cut throat, New York dude. Which is how I think he had the nerve to come up with something like using the illusion of true love as a weapon to game women who disqualify you based off of looks.

Which brings me back to a question I had for you earlier. Have you seen that movie Maleficent with Angelina Jolie? If you have what do you think of the movies premise?
She can't do anything about it. She's like his slave and he even said it in one of his blogs, and she's still with him. It just shows the power of his methods. I don't think she is a unique case. I believe his results can be reproduced by any man who forms a connection with a woman. The connection formed at the eggining sets the tone for the rest of the relationship until you both break up or die IMO. Granted relationships change overtime but the tone that was set at the beggining dictacts how those changes occur, and if you know how to navigate relationships then your pretty much in control of the situation. Granted you can never 100% control others (maybe if you employ some Mentok Mind Taking), but having control over 80-90% of things is a great place to be. I noticed the more I allowed women closer to that 50-50 line the more arguments and bullshit I had to go through. No more of that!
It doesn't, but at the same time I was looking at the effectiveness of the techniques not the character of the teacher. Besides I just don't care what others think. I have an IQ that between 140 and 150, (Just stating fact here so don't get mad whoever is reading this, or do get mad it doesn't matter)

I heard Apocalypse say this one time when some human called him a mutant. "I'm as far from them as they are form you!" It made me understand myself a lot more believe it or not. I am further from the average person than the average person is from a mentally retarded person. I walk around in a world full of retards. Most people's words hold as much weight to me as a 4 year old's. You might have heard Elliot say that last line.
Yeah, but you still get your dick wet in some very attractive pussy, you know for some temporary happiness. I had a moral dilemma when first testing out his stuff and I ended up crying a litttle bitch that day because I was going to a crazy set of emotions. I like to release my emotions these days, I spent the first 23ish years of my life bottling them up.

What occurred was in my head when the girl first rejected my initial advances she went into that bitch category in my head. Then I used one of JWs transitions and got into the conversation with her. As I was looking into her eyes I began to feel like a scumbag. I realized she wasn't a bitch at all and was actually a nice girl. My intent was that fuck those bitches who reject me based off looks I'll make her fall in love with me then ravish her and throw her ass to the side and laugh about it since she had the nerve to reject me based off looks.

As I was looking into her eyes I realized this was kind of evil, and I had to re-evaluate my life choices.

Yeah I've winged with 8 guys off this site, two more have PMed me over the last week and given me their numbers. Out of the first 8 only 1 of them was above basic AA nervousness. I had to stop hanging with that guy because he kept trying to get me to pay for shit because I have a lot of money.

That shit was agitating me them being all nervous and giving me a 1000 excuses not to approach was ruining my good time. I'd rather go out by myself. I started ranting in my lair post saying do not contact me if you are an AA chump. Also the guys who pm me I tell them that if they have a bunch of nervous AA energy I'm going to ruthlessly call them out on it and we both won't have a good time.
I may, but not until these next 3 months are over. I have no intention of writing a book on PU or giving back to the community in any way other than helping guys on this forum or a different forum if the moderators ban me for talking back. I just don't have the time. I'm an entrepreneur.
Interesting, too bad it's illegal to try something like this from start to finish. Like going around tagging people with spy cams they aren't aware of then watching the different races interact in their natural habitats. LMAO - What are japanese guys like Joe? I'm sure you can a couple guys at the NSA know.
I get what you're saying. All I am saying is that there is a level above this natural attraction thing. You can get the women who disqualify you based off looks. There are ways that exist in the world today. You can get more women. That is all I'm saying. I don't know if these are "better" women. You just have more options man.

Looking at my different levels of the game theory. Lets say all of these women are available...
It's like going from being able to sleep with:
(level 0) 0-1 out of 100
(level 1) 0-1 out of 10 -depending on who you learned from
(level 2) 2-3 out of 10
(level 2.5) 4-6 out of 10
(level 3) 7-8 out of 10

There is a huge jump from level 0 to 1 and then another huge jump from level 2 to 2.5 due purely to skill, and do't tell me you can't increase your PU skills because those would be words of a fool. Thinking everything works evenly across the board, and the only reason you hit a wall is due to looks is idiotic.
Level 3 then pierces the looks barrier and you get a few extra options.

We're just talking pure numbers relative to the individual person's skill level at playing the game. Not I'm good enough already, or coming from a position of inadequacy thinking you aren't good enough.

Like I said in the other post most PUAs (including most of these "gurus") are stuck around level 2. That's that be yourself and accept what's naturally given to you level. Level 2.5 is more be yourself and calibrate the best parts of you to the particular woman's belief system that you are talking to.

Level 3 grabs women you just can't get at level 2.5 and below. Basically level 2.5 and below can only get women who are already attracted to you.

Besides I don't know why you get the impression that I'm some gullible clown that stand for nothing and falls for anything, walking around being lead with a carrot in my face by Mass Marketers promising me riches and fame as they string me along to buy endless product after product. If I say I believe this product or that product stands on top of the world, it's because of research and testing. That's me personally. I told you not to lump me in with anyone else you know my man. I'm an individual. I don't know about those people you've met in the past.
No offense intended Joe... honestly. I agree 100% about the environmental constraint. That being said I know that I have more options than you if me and you were to walk into the same room. It's not to same I'm better than you or whatever. You can be a strong specialist, and so good at your particular style that you could kick my ass with your particular girl and situation. I just have more tools at my disposal.

If you're into MMA the recent title fight between Jon Jones and DC is a perfect example. DC is a better wrestler and with his limited tools he was able to hang in there with a dude who has 100x more tools than him. One guy just used punches, wrestling, and aggression. The other guy used punches, kicks, knees, elbows, shins, feet, heels, wrestling, spinning kicks, spinning fists, spinning elbows, faking takedowns then throwing flying knees as the guy ducked down to defend the takedown, aggression, counter punches, looking to the side to play on his opponent's natural follower/submissive instincts then punching him in his shit, and probably some other stuff I missed.

This is all about options Joe. You admit that you walk away from the girl when she acts bitchy. Initially however... you did approach her. Undeniably you were attracted on some level.

Reaching level 2.5 and/or 3 gets you access to more women. I didn't say you can sleep with every woman you see that's currently impossible.

PU is a martial art dude, maybe sport would be a better term? Our techniques and tactics do matter. I am a student in life. I am always trying to learn more. That being said after I absorb this JW stuff I don't feel like there is anything else worth learning except maybe NLP.
this is one of those uncommon terms I just realized. I've never actually used it in a conversation before so your reaction is priceless. I learned it while studying real estate. The guy showed a chart where it had 99% of people with their modest incomes then the millionaires+ in the 1%. It was a pie chart.

He then pulled up another pie chart and it showed the percentages of where these millionaires got their money. BTW real estate has the highest percentage of millionaires in our society if you want to know the easiest (or most common) way to become rich.

We've entered into 1% of the world already, us being PUAs. Then I compound the fact that I'm a Genius and a Marine Veteran with incredible athleticism, and some other shit I know that I won't get into here, (again just stating facts, I get so much hate for my accomplishments and gifts by just describing them it's ridiculous. You wouldn't say that shit if I said I was some fat, lazy, stupid mother fucker...) makes me a 1% in this 1%.
Perfect statement.
Yeah I can totally see this based off what I read from you. My problem is that I feel sorry that some good women actually have no chance with me because of my ambition, and each choice we make has a ripple affect throughout our entire future.

If I kick this good woman to the curb then when I finally get in front of my true target audience I hope that I didn't actually fuck up and settle for second best. Even if a woman doesn't have a bunch of resources or power she could be the most loyal and wonderful thing to ever happen to me. But, right now I'm sharpening my fangs for the interactions to come.

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and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

The bottom line, the sociopaths, the psychos, the bad ass males are getting the rocking late teen and early 20 yr old body. The chodes are marrying her past that rocking body point. Sexodus men are walking away because they don't want to be part of the fragile position men are placed in. What you are saying is that it is a non point cause it is just casual sex. Equate no value in converting her peak physical form traded in for free. For marriage, it is not about love but rather her going away party. She is antifragile since, there is no down side to marriage or divorce as she will be compensated for.
The thread is sexodus; a topic about men checking out of society completely.
Your parents promoted go have fun and go for sex?
Come again?
Your words stated you were hooking up and gang banging and passing women around unless you of course you were sarcastic and I did not pickup on that.

I've gangbanged lots of women with my brothers. I basically chilled most of the time and they just brought women around and asked if I wanted to fuck.

It was cool for a while until my brother made this weird ass comment about watching me fuck women got his dick on hard. Then I promptly stopped fucking women with them in the same room. After that my oldest brother had the nerve to walk into the room and tell me to hurry up while I was fucking one chick he brought over. That was the last day I accepted women from them. I never really cared about the gangbang aspect I was just getting some pussy, and they got an ego boost knowing they provided pussy to their little brother.

Anyway, sexodus guys and unsatisfied level 2 PUAs who resign themselves to their pool of yes women have in common that they both make justifications and give up. Now, if you're a satisfied level 2 PUA there is nothing wrong with staying at that level. You'll still get plenty of pussy, and there are quality women available to you at level 2. Reaching higher is more of a personal choice. I just see the guys who are level 2 PUAs that complain about the limits of PU to be in the same boat as sexodus guys. That's the reason I brought it up in the thread.

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This is untrue too. As I said, most attractive women don't just do casual hookups in their 20's. A very very very small % of women do mostly casual hookups throughout their 20's. Cock carousel is a myth or widely exaggerated one. Important point: while girls may feel it's wrong to call a woman a slut, they are still motivated to not engage in too much activity that would make them identify themselves as sluts.
Let's try this again. What does me not doing PU for 6 months have to do with anything?
Never said parents promoted that. Picked it up naturally.
Not sarcastic, but it's not a PU skill.

I always thought it was gay so, I never cared to do that. Everyone is different. Whatever does it for you man. I guess you can say, you did it. I know friends who have. Just too weirded out by that.
As I stated, it just seems gay to me. Nothing thrilling about multiple men with the same girl. Seems homosexual. There is a lot that can go wrong like crossing swords shooting at each other. #fucked
There is no levels. This is the bogus bullshit that PUA and all systems tell people. There is a carrot on a string in the form of chasing down some magical thing called game and btw please pay for my program. It seems like a load of shit and I suspect more of these companies will be put out in the future as frauds. JB promotes being unapologetic and recently contradicted himself. I tune in sparingly but, I have my own direction in life. If I am already picking up and pulling girls, some whom are in the six figures or close too as well as attractive, what else is there? I don't care to be PUA of the galaxy. I have already met guys who don't do PU and have better game then many of those people selling thousand dollar boot camps. It seems crazy to me.