So some background, I'm basically just getting into this. I'm just out of a marriage that has made me wanting a huge change. I'm tired of being completely disappointed in my sex life. A random youtube search a few weeks ago about improving social skills landed me onto videos from the 21 convention, and I'm hooked. I watched many of the videos twice, and I've been reading and practicing everything I've learned so far.

It's amazing how simple little things can make such a noticeable difference in my social life. People are acting different around me, in a good way, and it's only been a couple of weeks (with just the most basic of instruction)

I do have a question though. How exactly do i brooch the subject of me having kids. I have 2, ages 5 and 2, that i only have a handful of days a month due to work schedules and school. I love my kids and wouldn't trade them for the world, but I can't help but feel they would be viewed as baggage. Obviously i'm not going to lie about having kids, but what would be the best way to bring it up that's not going to throw up a huge "do not enter" sign up to a potential relationship.

~Hephaestus

why bring it up? it will qualify you too much

i never get asked the question...

and if she does ask, just change the subject

if you want a relationship then mention it after you have sex with her the first time. (you shouldnt be thinking you want a relationship until after you have sex with her anyway)

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The kids. Who cares? You don't have to lay out every detail of our life to some woman. You can answer it point blank if you feel. (Just changing the subject seems a bit suspicious I wouldn't do that) Then change the subject immediately to something more fun. This isn't a job interview.

Develop a natural framework then fill it in with stuff you find on here. There are many posts on natural game in the Natural game section.

Here is a basic one:

Approach/open(light kino optional) - have her invest/qualify herself to you (light kino) - build comfort/rapport (mid kino) - Close (number, instant date)

Then go on here and look over advice on texting and pick what you find the most fun to test out. Employ your texting game (or phone conversation game if you want to do that) and set up the date ASAP

Look for advice on dates (pick the thing you like best)

Look for advice on how to get a kiss

Look for advice on how to get a woman isolated in a place you can have sex.

Look for advice on how to prevent and overcome LMR

Look for advice on how to manage having an abundance of women in your life/managing a one woman relationship.

Answers to each piece of that puzzle can be found here for free.

A more advanced but still basic framework

pre approach - Approach/open(light kino optional) - have her invest/qualify herself to you (light kino) - build comfort/rapport (mid kino) - Close (number, instant date)

I suggest after you develop your own personal system (which can include nlp/hypnosis if you want) that you practice practice practice, then look for better skills to fill each section.

If you choose to do this can you do me a favor? I want to see what you create. PM me your completed framework (i don't care how long the PM is tell the whole story). I'll look over it and clean it up and streamline it for you.

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