Well hello there ladies and gents, i'll try to keep this as short as possible, also, i hope that this is in the correct sub-forum. *If you have time, do help a brother out*


So i must say, i've been doing good with the ladies lately, actually, i'm fucking surprised at how well i'm doing. But there's this one girl, that's right, i hope you can help me, and i hope you take your time to read through this as i think i like her a little bit more than i would like to admit. But this brother needs to understand something that he's possibly missing. So stay with me.

So it was this night, i was out, this girl dances up to me (perfect, right?). Anyways, i tell her straight up, "sorry this isn't going to work out" and she moves on. i was really not interested in any girls, i just wanted to hang out, drink and just have some fun.This time with my male friend, nothing else.

Great, so the place i'm at is about to close, and i was still motivated to go else where, cause hey! beer

So on the way out, this girl that danced up to me, ends up approaching my friend, with whom i've decided we should go to that other place which has open till bout 1:30 pm. She randomly asks if she could come along so we take her with us. She was actually pretty.

Great! All good and what not, we arrive there, it was around 6-7 am by then, i sit down at the next available seat. She seats herself between me and my friend.. So she starts talking to me, me having no intentions whatsoever, just enjoying myself. At some point i'm just sitting there looking at her lips, thinking: "damn, this one actually has looks and a great character. Fuck this! i wanna kiss her." And i do so. We literally kissed from about 8:30 am up to 1:30 pm in the same freaking area. With the occasional drinks and visit to the dance floor in-between. Sounds all good right? What could possibly go wrong?

So before leaving we exchange numbers, during the week,we had a chat via SPAM every now and then, that's when i noticed i wouldn't mind seeing her again. So here's where all the shit gets really, really, really weird. I ask her out for a drink during the week. She declines and says no. Repeatedly, she says no. I go out on saturday (the following week) and i ask her if she's out. Ignores the living shit out of me??. Kay, i go out anyway and coincidentally she's on the dance floor, i'm standing there and she wouldn't stop turning to me looking me in the eyes.

Well, what do you know, as soon as i'm there she's like my dog, she stands next to me, not hyper anymore, just silent while getting closer and closer. Eventually we end up kissing again and it pretty much ends up in the same process as last week, we spent all night till 12:30 pm in the same place. Bonus? I fingered her. (on the dancefloor)

2 to 3 weeks go by since the last time i've seen her, and i asked her out a few times if she wants to go for a drink, whatsoever, same shit as above, constant neglecting. At some point she started to ignore my messages for some reason. ????????????????


Now this is where everything starts to confuse me SOOOO MUCH.

So it was once again a saturday (4 days ago). I ask her if she happens to be going out today.
to which she replies "possibly"
Without a second thought i tell her to meet me @ (insert bar name/club here) to which she replies "i don't think so".


I ignore that message and two hours later i write something along the lines. "Listen, if you're not interested in meeting up with me, why not just say it. Instead of acting like a silly child. It's as simple as saying "no", it's not like my life depends on you, but it would indeed make it easier if you learned to communicate better. (honestly, i said it much harsher, but hey)."

Great, so i'm just thinking, you know what, screw this chick, there's plenty more fish in the sea.

So i'm at the place i once met her, and thinking, screw her, i'll just grab me another one. Which i do, i start a conversation with this chick and she just keeps on getting closer to me.

Next thing you know the girl i was texting with that ignored me POPS OUT OF THE BLUE and stands between me and this new girl i met for a second, stares me in the eye, i was kind of shocked to have her standing there and she proceeded to go and i grabbed her by the arm gently, but she continued going away anyway.

So in my mind i thought, "you know what? fuck you!"... and start making out with the new girl i just met. Making out with her, about 45 minutes pass. All of a sudden She passes by a second time, this time she looks me in the eyes for a second without saying a word, then says "hi" *kisses me on the cheeks left and right*. And leaves again.

At this point, i loudly scream FUCK, cause i'm just so freaking confused. Of course, she couldn't hear it, but the new girl i met was asking herself what's going on (LOL!) Regardless, i continue making out with her.

Few minutes, while talking to this new girl i just me, i notice the she has placed herself conveniently so that she can make eye contact.

At some point i just think: "ahh, fuck this, i'm gonna go get her, what could possibly go wrong anymore?"regardless of what she thinks. So i went over to the girl that's been ignorant to me, as usual, we ended up getting closer, she started behaving, we started making out etc.





....... and there we go again, she's mine again, she's grinding on to me, my arms around her, then while she's having a drink i'm standing behind her with my hands around her hips.

So just like every other night we go to the same bar afterwards, this time till around 10:30 am because she had to go see her dad at 11 am. Because she was going for lunch with her family. So while on our way to the bus station, i see a corner, grab her by the hand and pull her to a corner, which happens to be less exposed, so i fingered her and she jerked me off a bit. At some point I bring her to the bus station.The only thing i did different this time is,i decided to leave before the bus arrives. I got up, looked down to her and said: "Don't worry, i won't be contacting you very often anymore." I bend down to kiss her one last time, and leave.


The surprise:
Next day while on the shitter, she says "hello,actually,i just noticed the message you sent me last night, i find it to be really mean.. but luckily i'm not sensitive." (i had the feeling she used it as an excuse to talk to me again, you be the judge, SPAM timings indicate she's been online multiple times that evening, i have my doubts that she didn't read it, but hey- this is one complicated mofo)

Yada, yada, bla bla bla. She proceeds as though she had never ignored me, asking more questions than i'm usually used to from her. asking me how i am and what i've been doing today..

We chatted quite a bit that evening, talking about last night's funny moments and stuff.

At about 9pm we stopped chatting, both probably had said all that's to be said.

I decided to be nice, because i thought the message i had left her the day before probably did hit her harder than i thought, so an hour later, before going to bed i simply said:
"Good night "
to which she replies "Good night :-*"

I'm sorry once again for this huge wall of text, but i'm so confused that i'm trying to provide as much information as i can for you guys to understand and help me answer a few questions.

Okay, so it's safe to assume she likes me? - Actually, you don't need to answer this, or , do you? can't tell me a girl hangs around with a guy for 6~8 hours straight making out and doesn't like him)

But here's what confuses me,
1.) why would she ignore my messages when we're obviously BOTH going out?
2.) Why is it that when i see her face to face, she acts totally different? I feel like i own every part of her
3.) Most of all, why the hell does she not want to go out with me during the week for a drink or whatever else? HUGE WTF on this one

4.) Should i not contact her for a week and see what she does? Usually i've been the one contacting her mid week saying hello or whatever i felt like.
5.) Any tips or does anything seem flawed? I'm just trying to figure out why she ignores me like a mofo at times. To me it just doesn't make sense because she's all cuddly and what not whenever i see her.
6.) If there's something i could do to drive her crazy instead please do let me know.

and finally, i know there are many, many other girls out there, but the funny thing is, this one's a challenge and as confusing and frustrating as this one can be, unless something goes wrong, i WONT STOP UNTIL I DOMINATE HER. Hell am i passionate about this domination too. I actually like her.

Anyways guys, i'm sorry again for the long post and i'd GREATLY, GREATLY appreciate feedback

Entirely too long, man.

Tip: create a tdlr (too long, didn't read) version at the bottom of the post. Most users here won't read this.

Haha, i'll try. There are just so many stupid details that i feel i need to emphasize on this one

I took my time and read it all. Even if I think I have rock solid game at the rare occasions I go out nowadays, I lack experience with girls like this. But I will share some of my thoughts anyway.

I see a few possibilities here. Maybe she wants to keep an emotional distance to you, and thinks a date is too serious. She want to keep it playful. My guess is that she has been hurt before (some other dude) and is afraid to open up to you. My question to you, if this is the case, is why don't you already know this? And my own answer to that is because you two are terrible at communication, and have not had any deep conversation with each other.

Another possibility is that she enjoys the power she has over you by playing this game. But on the other hand it turns her off to be the dominant one and likes it when you are mean to her, dominating her instead. You have to carefully and playfully try to treat her in different ways and see what she likes.

I read everything. My guess at her reasoning for treating you like this is that she either just got out of a long term relationship and she doesn't want to leap right back into a new one or she is emotionally unstable and is playing head games with you even though she genuinely finds you attractive. After you make out with her for 4 hours and finger her you should probably take her home... She doesn't seem like the type that you'd want to have a long term relationship with so don't get too emotionally invested, just have fun with it