Joe, I've responded to what you said wrt sexodus which were the conditions for sexodus. You've painted the majority of women as feminazi's, Kim Kardashian idols, fat women dating up and that PU has changed in the last 6 months. I contended that those statements were wrong in real life. I didn't call you a troll, a keyboard jockey, a loser or anything. I responded to what you said. Other posters have agreed with me and said that the things that you've described, not everything but the things I debated, really weren't having any real effect in real life. This a board for DISCUSSION...You're not gonna be right all the time. So when other members are saying that there real life experience doesn't match yours or what you assume, then the questions can become, where do you live, what culture...NOT "well you don't get girls." Perfect example in this very thread, V stated that in his experience 20% of men were shut ins (paraphrasing). I didn't agree with this from my experiences. But I didn't respond to him by saying "That's a lie, you probably don't even do PU." I asked him where he lived and stated that maybe the difference was due to different locations.


Do you not agree that it's childish to take personal shots in a discussion? V is right, this forum never really bans. In others, the way you respond when you disagree would typically get the thread closed or you banned because you're going after other members to win an argument.

See, your side comments are hypocritical to your points about women. Let's say that I were a 50 yr old virgin. Do I not deserve some level of respect as a man and human being who is being polite to you? If your respect for a man is because he lays chicks, then again, you're giving women power. How then can you blame a man for siding with women, when the only way to get respect from you is to get women? Should I not then marry an ex escort because you'd respect me more? You say women are mostly villians all that stuff, but you're quick to dismiss someone's opinion because you think they don't pull women. That's like me saying the world is too shallow and then my first response to a disagreement is well my car is better than yours.

I don't know why the modern PU man is so stubborn. I believe the detriment is due to schools such as RSD which really do speak this cultish language and this "we are right, society is wrong, anyone who disagrees with us is a beta." They do this to take your money. They do this so your mind is only open to things that support their rhetoric. The best thing to have in pu imo, is to have an open mind. Somethings you read are right, some are wrong. Some things you think are right, some are wrong. You can say "You're right man, I disagree with what you said but you and V are right, I was being childish" and move on. This is how you grow. I dunno, I just can't get why men today can't say I was wrong. Ironically, thats what women do in arguments. And if we can't even debate in a manly way, we might as well not complain that men are becoming pussies.

Can you provide me a link or a few links that show this? The link you provided earlier only shows a rare case (which they state is rare in the article) that only happened because the woman pulled the Duress card. I offered a solution to neutralize the Duress card. Video evidence explicitly stating she isn't under any duress and having her sign it well in advance of the wedding. - which you still haven't addressed.

I know you've read it are you intentionally avoiding the point?
Snitches often get deals. It's not just women. If you were a drug kingpin and I your right hand man I could snitch on you and get witness protection for the rest of my life while you rot in jail. Even though we were up to the exact same stuff. This is extremely common in western society at least. I don't know where you're from.

I know of a case personally where this exact thing happened. The snitch didn't get witness protection however, but that's another story.

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and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

Neo have you ever been in a room where there are massive amounts of these Sexodus like men? When I worked my office job as a computer technician I had the opportunity. Most of them are really cool characters and they have a...different, sense of humor I find refreshing.

Respect? No fucking way! These guys are weak. Mentally they break so easily, and they complain about EVERYTHING! So negative it's horrifying. If you offer an opinion that goes against their negative belief system they will argue to the death with you.

Most take on a mentality of hubris like they are better than other people because they are smart.

We were fixing computers for the top law firms in the country. We got to talk to everyone in the firms. The partners down to the secretaries, and interns. People with millions of dollars and law degrees who battled in some of the most important cases going on in the USA.

These guys always talked about how stupid these lawyers were... "Damnit, it's Paul Ditz's stupid ass again."

These sexodus guys aren't solution oriented men. If they were they could easily come up with a plan to combat the stuff women throw at them. They are stuck in their own world with their heads up their asses. Granted all of them aren't like that I'm talking about the general population.

That's why they run from women. Their pride can't take the game. They are a weak link on the human genetic chain that's being removed by the modern woman. I feel like it's a great thing. You go and reach out to one of these guys who isn't looking for a solution, and see if you can make that jackass drink the water.

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and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

Agreed. I've tried to help some of the guys I've known that are like this. It's a dead end.

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I cannot bother dude. Just do a google or bing search. I already pointed to several links where it was exempted, a woman did murders, rape, hurt even her sister and she is rewarded with a new name, family, and free as a bird.

#IdontWantToLiveOnThisPlaneAnymore Snitches often get deals. It's not just women. If you were a drug kingpin and I your right hand man I could snitch on you and get witness protection for the rest of my life while you rot in jail. Even though we were up to the exact same stuff. This is extremely common in western society at least. I don't know where you're from.

I know of a case personally where this exact thing happened. The snitch didn't get witness protection however, but that's another story.[/quote]

this is complete madness. We are talking rape, murder, hell, she even video taped fucking her sister up literally. This is a free woman.

they tend to be intelligent introverted butt hurt little men following being financially raped and castrated.
That is true for the most part but, the same bitching these men do are what feminists do. Interestingly, they both are playing the victim. The court and legal systems are a nightmare. Nobody has mentioned their age. I am assuming based upon the mindsets, most guys here are either late teens or early 20s. Limited life experience or travel experience.
Today, smart and marriage do not go hand in hand. Gynocentrism is essentially traditionalism. I observe women who will pep up male ego with request to manipulate men with using their strength, working harder only to emasculate other men. Commentary like man up or ... be a man!

In reverse, they would be freaking out, on talk shows about how sexism men are, and victimizing oneself.
Summed up in bold. My mind works towards solutions. I see a lot of arguments and debate but, very little solutions offered by sexudos, mgtow, feminism, and so on. Lots of finger pointing and few answers or solutions if anything at all.


I have stated before, I thought I would be married with a couple of children by now, settled down, and not practicing PU. I learned of PU and I also realized how flawed the system is. The system keeps man in the dark, wait for sex, buy dinners, swear off your shit through marriage. Its not suggesting men and women step up in life. Its not promoting anything but mediocrity or offering value.

The JB scenario is accurate indication of low level consciousness. Instead of saying, JB fucked up but, lets look at some of the good he did but rather, castrate and attack him. Make up false rape accusations by other company members. Slander names of everyone and anyone to sell a story. Take zero responsibility. The media does this shit time and time again. Nobody calls them on their deceit however, if they were sued for everything they own after false rape accusations, it would set precedence in future for the next jackass to keep their mouth shut in the media unless they want their life ruined.

As established, you are in a relationship of 6months meaning, you are not actively doing PU. Most if not all women today will say they are a feminist.

In doing PU, most women today are watching the kardashians promoting more low level consciousness. The preach nonsense about being equal, not needing a man but, want to be a stay at home trophy wife despite the lack of attractiveness. Quite frankly, I do not care for what the majority of forum members or people think. Caring is validation seeking and how a society becomes socially conditioned.

I stopped using the forums for awhile cause people talk shit about game. When it comes to throwing down, when it comes to actually going out, do PU, they got some lame excuse... their dog died. The sky is falling. I am not interested in people with lame excuses nor their opinions and two cents on game. Those in this thread may or may not be great at PU. Quite frankly, I do not give a fuck either way. My point still stands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0d1zTAFKA

If JB held the same frame... PU would likely be in a different place rather then going against social norm and becoming apologetic. In the words of the great S.C., my opinion has not changed.
Do you not agree that it's childish to take personal shots in a discussion? V is right, this forum never really bans. In others, the way you respond when you disagree would typically get the thread closed or you banned because you're going after other members to win an argument.
Hypocritical maybe but, my opinion has not changed. You were not being polite. In your words, ¨I called you out¨ is exactly what you said. I went onto say I rather take someone who does current PU then someone in a relationship. I then went onto mention about how a man in a relationship had better game then everyone but, this is not the normal way of things. He is the anomaly. The same argument holds for NAWALT.

If you will quote me, get it correct at least. I said, not all women are villains but, most are closer to that then the Disney female character we got brought up in believing in as a child and young man.
You were promoting with the you cannot say this or that. You were argumentative to my points. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. It has no bearing on me what so ever. I am not the least bit concerned, worried or emotionally invested. The same goes for group think in my life or on this forum. Quite frankly, I just don't give a fuck.

What I stated is a matter of fact based upon my opinion. take it or leave it. The same approach is take to making friends, business partners, PU, women. Life goes on. I mentioned several times about free tour... everyone has an excuse or no shows events. Mention John Cooper in another thread... someone claimed I am he and I was pedalling his material. The internet is full of little boys with opinions. Most have limited to no life experience. Many are posting from the comfort of their moms basement their theory on PU. They do not pract but, lets sit down and listen to their two cents.

Prior to mentioning Sexodus, nobody had a fucking clue what this is, and in the same article, JB is mentioned. Many of people were saying feminism has no bearing on PU or male psychology and any effects on dating today. This is called stupidity.


You made the call out. You struck blood first and now, you want to back pedal with ¨you hurt my feelings mister.¨ From the looks of things, you pimped out pics of you gf on a PU forum. Classy. I have more self respect then that. A ons from PU is more then sufficient.

Real PU will always trump what someone learned from a book or the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0d1zTAFKA

This is badass by S.C. and I cannot help but wonder, what if JB did as he preached; rather than talking being unapologetic, he held his ground. My opinion has not changed.

I do not like what he did nor advocate it but, this is typical of PU to promote and preach but, when the shit storm comes, lets hold onto social narratives and conditions. In relations to sexudos, what if these men held the same sort of frame that S.C. has here with women? Life? Business? Their dreams even????

I am a huge fan of David Deida and his work in Way of the Superior Man. I do not believe most men have offered this kind of advice in PU. Yes, people have taken his work and misconstrued it the way it is done with Ecky in PU. Not the way it was meant or written. I think MGTOW, men going their own way is a powerful thing but, avoidance of women and sex is ridiculous. Tyler describes that as failing at life which is so easy to do. People entering into relationships in their mid or late twenties because everyone else is doing it. There is truly something special about going your own way even if it means pissing off people, taking opinions that may go against group think, contrary to social narratives of happily ever after.

If I am to settle down in Western Society with a woman, have a family, and be compliant with social norms, a variety of things have to change. The alternative would be meeting a red pill woman who is awake. Another alternative would be a woman who is attractive, has a six figure or more income, career, ambitions, works out despite winning the genetic lottery, and you share a shit load of things in common with her. These are the only alternative solutions to compensate the corrupt social justice system.


My meme will be up at some point. Stay tuned

Nah, never came across alot of sexodus men, but the ones that I have come across were just normal guys. Not negative and just regular guys to be around, they'd talk about sports, movies, travelling, even hot women...you'd never think these guys were single or had no interest in dating. It would just come out and they'd say it matter of fact like. A good friend of mine is actually sexodus type, he works out, talks abt women he finds attractive and we talk about girls in my life or funny dating stories. He just has no interest in talking to or dating women because he finds dating a hassle. But dude would let me use his room to fuck girls or even talk to chick's friend if I needed the help.

Not advocating helping these men, more like helping and supporting men who are looking for help. I'm not really a fan of the barrage your friend with PU stuff to get him to come out thing.

To Joe, you took shots at me way before I said the words "I'm calling you out." I pimped out pics of my gf? What? Didn't you read this was an old pull from a bar? Maybe you come on here to lie, but I've been straight up. If I didnt know something I said so. I couldve lied from the beginning and say I was single and banging chicks every night. So I'm lying abt having a gf, I don't pull, or wait I probably do have a gf. I never once said you can't say this or that abt anything. Let's not lie. And I first came into this thread with a general statement which YOU replied to. I didnt come in here quoting your stuff. Let's not keep debating because I can't respond to untruths. You're right, we're wrong. V, fudge and I are all the same person and closet feminists. This is an interesting thread but most of it isn't based off of anything.

For a guy who does not do PU anymore, you seem to get really sensitive quite a bit.

What is all this ¨we're wrong?¨ You cannot stand on your own two feet. You need to bring in other people?

You made small penis comments and now, you want to bring out your violin, and play a little tune about being a victim and a valuable member of this thread. The thread was originally based off the article I linked in another thread.
Looks like you are out of luck. I will tweak it some more. Pepper that anus!

The best trolls always seem to get banned despite posting funnies.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=yaboydav ... CAYQ_AUoAQ

http://s528.photobucket.com/user/jamiec ... A.jpg.html

http://i.imgur.com/DsdkA.jpg

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-18324.html

There goes a story where a woman has a husband, cheats on him with Dave and a friend. She then claims to be a victim when he outs her to the world.

I believe the video is on dailymotions under epic win.

I feel the same about routines. I may say or do something I did from my own experience that is real and genuine. Then again, I do not do magic or wear funny top hats to the bar.
Yeah. It amplified the oneittus I had so, I started watching a bunch of mgtow videos which I think started to rot my brain a little lol I feel dumb down because of it. Also, I noticed myself being more negative and reactive afterward. I think it can be toxic to monogamous long term relationships but, I think it can be productive to PU in bars or clubs since, people tend not to look for the most healthy of relations there.
My meme needing to be made into 100 x 100 pixels is annoying me. Its a beauty.

Oh shit... I mean...he technically did commit voyeurism.

Wow that's one crazy ass story.

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extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
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Lol. Literally every time you post, I have to wonder who the poster is you're responding to because I'm like "Who said that?" As I said, I'm not debating a liar. You say a lie to me, I respond, then you go on to say I'm sensitive for responding. But your responses to me have consistently been longer and with link filled to what I say...so who is sensitive? Lol. But go ahead...say more theory and what you've read. JB changed the world, most women want to be like Kim K and fat women are dating up now No lies, all your words and talking points. I was wrong, you were 100% right. Fuck all your guys who don't see that JB changed things for billions of men out there...you just don't pull. Hail Tyler

And 100x100, dude, you can post links for days but you're gonna show something on a thumbnail? Haha I cant even tell you what avatars are supposed to be. I guess I'm backpeddling when I go bowling for a couple of hrs, but when you wait a day, it aint. I aint gonna pepper my anus, I'm running to best buy to get a 70 inch monitor and some reading glasses so I can see that shit. Come on, don't make it easy for me. You obviously know how to find shit on the internet, you think anyone is gonna squint at a 100*100 pic and take it seriously? You keep bragging for a thumbnail? Hahaa wtf. I'm gonna sleep its 11 here, if you're gonna hype a picture up, make it a clear picture. Please take consideration for other people's vision on here.

Just upload it on imgur and post the link. I'll resize the thing for you. It takes like 8 seconds.

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Good morning...Nothing yet

You know what joe, you have repeatedly accused me of being dishonest. When I put up a pic of a pull, you dismissed it as it must be my gf. When I've said or done anything that showed you up, you brought up that I MUST be lying. I can only assume that you're this dishonest person. I've given you far more leeway and benefit of the doubt than you have. I'm not good with posting stuff online, I've only ever posted ONE link on this forum, and had to figure out how to upload images for this. Once you accepted, I told you guys I'd be home soon and uploaded pictures in a couple of hrs on a Saturday night. You, are pretty good with posting links and finding pictures or evidence for your points. So it's pretty silly it's taken a day for you now. Since you keep assuming dishonesty about me, I'll do the same now. Keep your thumbnail. You've been disqualified. At this point you could have searched for pictures online, heck you've had over a day so you couldve found a prostitute. Since you said I posted a pic of my gf after I stated it was a pull, I'm saying it's more likely that whatever thumbnail you post is a pro you called over. I gave you a chance to make this simple.

I posted my shit over a day ago, I can only assume by your delay that you're up to trickery now. You haven't been in some accident or something, you've still been posting and linking other stuff.