Since I choose not to do clubgame, I am stuck with Mcdonalds or the like venues. The HBs are two sets, and there is only one two set that is good quality.

I go in and hung around for a while and spot them one is often an age 22 HB9. They usually have the montly important girl-talk session what I intend to interrupt. HB9 notices that I keep glancing at her direction.
So I get up and open with: Hello girls sorry to interrupt but I had to come and say hello. TO HB9: I couldn't help notice how great you look, and I noticed you have a strong intensity in your dark eyes that I find mesmirising. Are you some kind of arttist by the way? You seem to have an aura of an artist maybe because the way you dress, and the poetic look of your eyes?

And my usual result at this point: a shocked expression on their faces. I am 34 by the way.

Any theories or comments??

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Does this actually work.... in a McDonalds?

I think you may want to be dumbing it down a bit... (but hey, if you're having success with this - go for it...)

You're not picking up girls at the Hyatt or a symphony. They're grabbing some greasy food before they go drinking...

Depends on your style. I'd probably be more likely to make some joke about Grimace looking like a big purple condom.

No, No it is different in Europe, sophisticated people meet im Mcdonalds when they intend to keep a low profile.
Teachers teach math in Mcdonalds and burger king, businismen meet there to discuss their shady deals, HBs from PHD courses link-up there befoare calling it a night...

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The only problem I could see with this is you might be showing too much interest too early...

But if you play it off relaxed and with some negative body language it could be a good opener.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is if it works for you or not. If it works pretty well, then keep using it. Simple as that.

My favorite group opener is saying something like, “Hey are you guys shy or something? Cause I’ve been standing over there for like 5 minutes and you haven’t even tried to walk by or grab my ass or anything... What’s going on over here?”

haha

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It is not normal game, it is unusual game. HBs wont see the PUA in you. They will be surprised, but I come from the premise that HBs occasionnally want to get fucked, just like that. It is not ambigous because you state your intent: "I like you." You kind of like an actor when you open: like Alain Delon, like Steve Mcqueen. Calm, collected, confident, have to be brave engugh to handle security guards, also come accross as someone who knows a thing or two about chicks!

It is a roller coster: one week you don't get a single positive exchange for 5 days, the next week you end up with 3 f- closess.

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why wouldnt you do club game?

I've never even drank in my life and i know what benefits it has

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Because ten+ years ago I did, and I never had any success at all. My best friend was a natural it was he who attrracted the HBs. Moreover I didnt like house music, the rocker girls didnt like me, and in frustration I was drinking way too much.

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i understand your frustration but the past does not equal the future - just because you couldnt do something 10 years ago doesnt mean you cant do it now.

there are clubs and bars for the genre of music you like

night game is your best bet you are just making up excuses

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This.

IMO in the McDonald's opener there was too much pressure and attention put on the girl. Smooth out your approaches a little, and don't take one approach as the end-all of everything. Keep at it.

If you are flirtatious with the girl you do not have to spell out word for world what you think about the way she looks etc. You can talk about any subject; if you are flirtatious with the girl, she knows what's up.

Speak with them with an "I already know you" vibe rather than a stranger vibe.

Getting shocked expressions is normal because most girls are not approached during the daytime in such a direct manner. If anything, this is a sign that you're doing things correctly.

Just keep plowing and she'll get more comfortable as time goes on...

Other, sticking point is, when I do this, I talk to the hot girl, not to the HB7, so I ingnore her allmost completely. And often they are a 3set, with a guy in it and I cant open those at all...

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