Hey guys.

I'm new in the game, I have been seeing some videos e reading about it. So I have a general idea of how things works, but not much experience.

What happens is: a few weeks ago, I met a new girl in my work place. We work together in the same restaurant. Almost of time I work as dishwasher, and she work as waitress. Forget about high value about job, I can´t just fake it with her. But, in another hand, she told, more than once, that she thinks that my work is funny. And once she asked me if I wanna help... I had to refuse.

She is the kind of person that speak easy with everyone, not even close of a shy girl, but I think she can be naive sometimes.

Once I tried share some fries that I had with her, and then she told me that she has a boyfriend, and this guy don´t allowed her to eat some kind of food.

Well, I really like this girl, and I can see me dating her for a long time... who knows what can happen between us, but I need handle with some stuff first.

I´m not looking for cheating her boyfriend, but I would like make her my girlfriend. I know that´s need time, is not that easy, but I believe that´s worth.

I can´t just talk too much with her in my workplace, for obvious reasons.

So, yesterday, I asked if she likes games, kind of psychological tests. She told that she likes. Then I asked if she can arrive earlier in her next work day, like a half hour earlier. She told me that she can. Than I suggested we meet on the beach. Is something like 3 minutes from our workplace by foot. She didn't feel so much comfortable when I told her about the beach. So, I noticed in time, and then I told her that I need of her full attention to make the test, and if we try do this in the restaurant, people from there can interrupt us all the time, and won't be good at all. And then I asked if she likes coffee and hot chocolate. She told me that she likes but she can't drink this now (I believe that is because her's boyfriend). I neg her making a joke about her appearance, and moved the place to one coffee shop near of us. I asked to arrive half hour earlier and she understood one hour and agreed with that. So, I played dumb and agreed with one hour early as well.

And, yesterday as well, she grabbed a lot of stuff from my place to give to the kitchen, and when I asked if she could handle with so many things, she answered that she got muscles. Than, after that, in the first chance that I got, I asked her if she work out. When she told that she does, I asked to her flex her arm, and touched her. Because of my work, kino escalation is not so easy for me. First, I can not spend so much time with her, and second, my hands are dirty almost of time.

So, what I have done so far, and interesting facts that happened between us:
* Once, she asked me to use my mobile to send a message to her sister, because her mobile was dead (this happened in the second time that we met);
* Once, she asked about things about her job, because she was feeling lost in her first days, instead of ask her colleagues, or the manager;
* She offered to help me once;
* She thinks that my job is funny, more than her's job;
* She usually to ask when is my next work day to check if she will be working that day too;
* I asked her to flex her arm, and she did. I touched and she felt comfortable with;
* I asked to meet me earlier in her next work day, and she agreed with that.

What I have in mind:
* Use the Cube routine;
* Use one little guess trick with number;
* Use the Love's test routine;
* Use some patterns of speed seduction to make her comfortable with me and build trust;
* Buy two hot chocolates and make she drinks one. If she agree drinks one with me, even being against her's boyfriend will, I think I'll going in the right direction to her's heart;
* If I have time, use the Synesthesia routine, and anchoring that feelings in a small pack of sugar that belongs to our workplace. That way she'll keep one with her at her home, and anytime that she is working and see one of the pack of sugar of our workplace she will remember me. Specially in days that I won't be there.

What I'm looking for:
* I wanna make her my girlfriend without cheating her's boyfriend.

Problems that I have:
* She has a boyfriend;
* No contact out of workplace;
* I'm not sure if she only see me as a friend.

I'm open to any comments and advice.

I'm going to ask you to please read this. I feel it's desperately needed in your case.

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You made your point, but I'll still looking for help in my case.

If you must do routines, then at least look into Captain Jack's material and search for Neo87's posts around here.

The time routines have value for some people, is managing situations and steering them in the right direction. But you need to be executing these things on women who are already interested in you up front. I get no sense that this women is sexually attracted to you from anything you've described.
Routines are not magic, that take a girl from "meh" to wanting to fuck you.

Routines are supposed to be used in a structured format, to produce certain results.
Routine #1, make her smile and think you're cool/safe.
Routine #2, get her to commit to conversation.
Routine #3, establish rapport.
Routine #4, get her thinking about you and her together.
Routine #5 put her in a sexual frame of mind.
Routine #6, find our what she's doing later, and convey that you're doing something cool she'd like to join.
Routine #7 invite her to do this cool thing.
Routine #8 firmly seed the idea of hooking up later in her mind.
Routine #9 part in a way that she's still thinking about you much later

Nothing in your list does anything like this. It's just a pile of routines literally for the sake of routines and somehow, sexual attraction is going to magically fall out of it.

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I don't know if routines can help you here as V said. IF you are going to use routines on dates, you should practice them with other dates prior to a date with a coworker. I use routines sometimes on dates, but usually when something relates to the vibe and what we're talking about. For eg, a girl says she's into psychology so i do the Cube. You're new to this so I don't think using a routine for the first time on a work girl is the best move and I can't say how effective they'd be. If you're serious about getting better with girls though, sure try those routines for PRACTICE. But not to get the girl. If you're really set on this girl, or at least not embarassing yourself at work, play it safe and simple.

Just watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWaBL3n ... g9YDyq9y8A

all i said in this vid was - the point of the date is to show the girl a good time - lead - seal the deal when the time is right

If you cant do that, get your shit together, this girl wont be for you.

there are no substitutes for real attraction in this world, unfurtunately

in the long run you have to be well rounded and natural

what will you do when you run out of routines?

Here's what you'll do, you'll cry, run back to the forums and rebuild yourself

Save yourself the trouble, start doing the right thing now.

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Well, thanks for your advice, I really appreciate that. Now you clarified the things for me.

Well, about The Cube and Love's Test, I like to use to know the girl better, and usually, they give good feedback when they know the results of tests. Specially in the Cube, when you ask about the "horse" you can figure out what kind of guy she feel more attract for. And the Love´s Test is to see what kind of relationship that girl is for.

The trick with number is just to make her sees me as smart and cool guy, once that I can tell her what number she thought.

About hot chocolate, I was thinking in make her break a taboo. If she can do it for me, that´s means that she is open to me. She accepted my influence.

About Synesthesia, I never tried this before, but I was thinking in use this to do Kino Escalation.

Anyway, I'll look for the routines that you told to check.
I have been practicing the Cube and Love's Test with some girls and the feedback are goods. And today I discovered that the girl that I like she is attending School of Psychology. So, when I told her about the Psychological Testing she was interesting about it.

Today was a good day (I think so). You tell me.
I totally agree with you about run out about routines. I think that if all that I have are routines, I can get in trouble when I have to use my last one in the same girl. But, routines are something new to me. So what I try to do is be myself and use same routines, even because I feel that same routines are very funny to do. But I have been improving myself to be more and more playful as a person.

And thanks for share the video. Really good one.

I understand the desire to run routines to fill time, attempt to appear interesting, and keep things going. Yet (and I am not tryna bust your balls OP but rather making an overall comment) running a lot of routines screams tryhard. Let her do most of the talking so she feels connected to you. Just sit back, have something to drink, shoot the breeze, look into her eyes, go kino, and let the chemistry take over.
You're making this more difficult than it needs to be. She's out with you alone = assume she's into you. Go with it.

So guys, thanks everyone for share your advice with me.

Today, what happened was:

Today was to be our date. I arrived in the place 2min late, and she wasn't there. I waited for 13min more. And then I left. I though 15min should be a good time to some arrived late, and if I just stay there for more, waiting without know if she was coming or not, won't be good for me.

So, after 15min late that was we agreed, I left and went to our workplace. She had to go there to work at 1pm. That´s was one hour after "our date". So, half hour later, she was in our workplace. First she tried in the Coffee Shop, and didn't find me there, she moved to the restaurant. When she saw me there, she poked me in my back to call my attention, and explained that she had lose the bus and had to wait for the next one, and when she arrived in the Coffee Shop I wasn't there... bla, bla, bla...

She asked me if I was mad with her. I tried make a serious face, but I couldn't. I told her that I was, but with a big smile in my face. She told me to forgive her and next time she will pay for my hot chocolate.

We talk more for a few minutes. Her mobile rang. She talk with her's boyfriend (I think so, not sure). And her face wasn't so happy when she was talking to him.

After that I spent sometime with my colleagues, talking to them. And them I went to talk with the manager. The girl that I like was near of us, and after she finished her call she came to close of us. We were just having a small talk, and I could figure out some good things about her.

When I was talking to "my girl", I was always trying find I way to touch her. And once she touch me back. I didn't say anything in that situation because we were in front of our manager. Would be very embarrassing for all.

After that, I left the place without say goodbye to her hoping that she would ask for me. And she did.

Few hours later I had to go back to start work as well. And when I got back, I brought with me same sweets made in Brazil. 5 in total. When I start share the sweets she was close. The first one I gave to a colleague that I work with in the same section. And I could notice she looking to what I was doing. And then I gave one to her, but I told that she doesn't deserve it, but I would be I good guy, and give one to her. Only because I'm a good guy. Then I share more with others from my work place, but not with all. She ate and liked and told me that in her homeland has something with similar taste.

We talk for more time after that, and I could learn more about her.

Another thing that happened was that I told her one joke and she told me that was funny. I really think that wasn't so funny, even because my English is not so good... But she liked. That's what matter.

After that I start work. We crossed eyes. Small comments.

I finished my work before her. Made some jokes. She smile. And then she finished her job and left.

I could follow her, but I though won't be good.

So far as I know, we are get along. And is just a matter of time until we start something together.


What you say guys?

True. I realized it now. Thanks.

Your welcome man, glad i could help.

Now as far as your current situation, things seem to be going well, just keep vibin with her showing her a good time and pull the trigger when the opportunities arise.

Post more specific questions in the future so we can help ya solve the problems

Good luck

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