Nowadays, I usually get good reactions when I open girls. I mainly do day game. Yesterday I was out in the bars in my town and it felt somewhat harder to me. More and higher bitch shields. One approach lead nowhere. I did not even get a single sentence out of her mouth:

HB9 sits on a bar stool, looking into her mobile phone. Her girlfriend goes to get drinks. I sit down next to her. "Hi! Whats up?". She looks up from her phone with a look like "What the fuck do you want?" and looks back into her phone. I "You girlfriend is gone. Im your new friend now". She looks up "Aha". And looks back into her phone. Me "Anything interesting in that phone today?". She doesn't even look up. Makes an annoyed facial expression. My wing (a complete beginner) approches her with some lame canned opener. She rolls eyes and looks annoyed. The girlfriend comes back. We go and approach other targets.

How would you guys go about this?

One of my favorite openers at the moment with girls on phones in the club/bar is:
Excuse me but dont you know its rude to be on facebook while in the club?
Usually they apologise and are instantly receptive to a conversation. Then you just say, hey thats ok but you must be bored so lets change that etc.
another pointer, dont ask questions use observations. No one wants to give personal information about themselves to a stranger, and it comes off needy and creepy. Also have no expectations be self amused, not reliant on her replys to make the mood. Hope this helps

well look...

in the day time if i open with a direct..and she ignores me...ill tell her i didn't know you can't take a compliment...

in the night time where i open indirectly and she ignores me...

ill tell i didn't know you are a social retard...

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Do you want to know something funny? THAT SAME GIRL was probably out doing errands earlier that afternoon. Had you seen her and gone up to her with your "Hi! What's up?" I'll bet she would have been VERY receptive. For some reason a girl assumes you have balls of steel when you approach during the day. Just something to think about. (I'm biased though because I mainly do daygame).

that happens bro - sometimes women are just in a bad mood. for all you know she could have been PMSing

awesome job for trying to start the conversation 3 separate times and props to your wing for going in after all that!

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If she really ignores you the whole time, even after you tried to build up a conversation for a few times, it shows that she simply isn't interested in you.

The worst thing that you can do in such a situation is to react hateful and to call her a bitch or something like that.

Why don't you just smile at her and say "well, you are probably not the right girl for me " and go to the next girl who is the right girl for you.

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Whenever a girl ignores me after my opener what i'll do is, try at least 3 more times to crack her.

I noticed you tried one more time, then got into your head and just rejected yourself even more.

She smelled it, realized she was right, you were a pussy, and just locked out. haha

My strategy when a girl ignores me, is to stay confident, try again a couple times until she either acknowledges im a cool guy, or just simply isnt in the mood and blows me out. But she'll blow me out knowing i was the coolest mother fucker that was going to talk to her that night.

I've had girls ignore me, and as i walk away they yell out "Wait blah blah" explaining them selves.

Point of the matter is, not every girl is going to be in the mood to talk or meet a guy.

So as a PUA your job is to see if you can crack them. But if you cant, oh well, it wasnt your fault, move on confidently.

Cant get em all man.

But in this particular situation i feel like she was just testing you to see if you were high value enough, but you failed when she gave you a shit test and you went into your head and thought it was you.

That gets me sometimes too, haha. But the more it happens the more you persevere.

Good luck next time boss.

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Honestly, fuck the bitch. If you did your part right, and didn't act like a creep or macho asshole, she has no reason to act like that, even if she isn't interested. I'm fine with having to work for it, I'm even fine with just being blown out without being given a chance. Sometimes they just want to be left alone, that's fine. But why would anybody be rude like that?
Also: Why would you even want to pick up a cunt like that. What kind of asshole responds with "What the fuck do you want?" to somebody just saying hello. These kinds of girls aren't even worth the two bucks for a condom. Fuck her. Just fuck her.

I feel your pain bro, guess what? alot of times you will see shit like this happen.
Some girls just get so caught up in their own shit/negative vibe they'll try and project that on to you upon the approach.

But you know what? i use to get mad at shit like that too, but that was the ego.

Then i heard a great yogi quote "Seek first to understand than to be understood"

and i realized people are gona be wack sometimes, but thats their issues. Never hold it against anyone. Is human nature to act shitty sometimes.

Girls are all gentle flowers in the end, no matter how fucked up they act at times, be compassionate.

Unconscious behavior is all it is.

As a PUA, we must understand the social dynamics at place and not take it personal, the game is a beautiful thing.

Haha i say this shit now but im the most hot tempered motherfucker out in the field, haha. Na but really cant take these bitches serious when shit like that happens, is all one big joke.

I feel your pain though, after thousands of approaches i've encountered alot of scenarios like that and is hilarious/can be frustrating to a begginer.

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I absolutely disagree. I would never react to somebody approaching me that way. Never. Doesn't matter if I just got dumped, or a crazy bum cut off my dick. And even if she had a reason, personally, there is no reason for me to waste anytime with that person.
Why should catlogic, or anyone for that matter, spend time talking to her? I wouldn't wanna be friends with a person, who treats people like that, why would I wanna fuck em? Clubs are full of good looking chicks, I'm not gonna try to win over such an asshole. That type of behavious shouldn't be rewarded. I'd rather put effort into a girl that's actually worth it.
She could have the most amazing tits, or blow like a fucking vacuum, a person who thinks that she can talk to strangers that way, isn't worth it to me.
That being said: Cheers to that, bro. Couldn't agree more. While I fucking hate people like that, I would never take it personally. Blow Outs like that can be the most hilarious thing ever.

Yea, most people would disagree, i just like banging hot tempered bitches, it turns me on

specially if is a girl who initially was acting bratty, love it when my cock is in her later on, i love a challenge.

But let me clarify something, it is rare you'll pull these types of girls, i use the 3 times rule, if she doesnt crack im out faster than lightning ! no time for psycho cases, lol.

i remember one time i was out and i encountered this girl who kept telling me "Does that shit work on girls?" and she wasnt playing, but she kept talking back to me, soon enough i found out she was one of those psycho bitches who try to "Auto correct" players.

Dawg i threw that SPAM smokebomb on the floor as soon as she started getting mad psycho i was like

*poof*

shit can be funny as fuck though. But stay away from Negative Energy if you cant turn it positive.

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It can be venue-specific too. I almost guarantee like I mentioned earlier in the thread, catch that girl on Tinder or in the club and the bitch shield will be raging. Catch her at Starbucks or on the street, there may be zero bitch shield.

I just move on, I don't want to 'persist' with one particular girl.

I used to try but the % of girls that I tried it on and STILL didn't bang doesn't make it worth it for me, i will just move on to a girl that DOES dig me.

Let me clarify though, when I get rejected politely (" lol I can't..."), I see that as an IOI and I continue (I don't think the word 'persist' is needed here) - But if she ignores me/back turns me then i will not waste another second on her.
I agree, but to be devil's advocate, I could also talk to a hotter girl next to said girl in a bar and then pawn on to her so that your value is somewhat boosted or maybe something like belt limbo with the added benefit of escalating physically (which is like VERY hard to do in the daytime) so I don't think you should rely on one channel regarding meeting girls. Diversify. Most guys are lazy on Tinder so for me, I have gone that extra mile and invested some serious time and a little bit of money into buying clothes and a quality camera that raises my value on Tinder as opposed to the bland selfies most guys take. There is no excuse, show your value as much as possible wheteher it be night/day/online/couch surfing

p.s. I get girls ignoring me in daytime too lol

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That's exactly it. There isn't exactly a shortage of girls. You can approach like 5 sets with 10 way more receptive girls in the time it takes you to get anywhere with one bitch. Just sayin'. I'm still unsure if Tinder is worth it. So far I've number closed like 40 girls, gone out with close to 10, and f-closed 2. I invited one more to my New Years Eve party so maybe it's gonna be 3 soon.
But out of the 8-10 dates I've had so far over Tinder, at least half where a waste of time, cause I'd never gone out with them, if I had met them during normal approach. So that's a good 10 hours, and maybe 50,60 bucks for nothing. There were 2 or 3 I actually liked but didn't get anywhere and as I said, I got lucky twice.

Considering you can Tinder whilst having a shit on the toilet at work, whilst having a bunch of copy and pastes in your phone. It really isn't too much of an inconvenience on one's life.

Walking around shopping malls and night clubs dealing with at least 80% - 90% flakes is a poor strategy in my opinion. for me, I go through phases.

Don't rely on one, do it all when convenient, they all rebalance one another whilst you work on your overall life in the mean time. Time is precious.

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