Over the past 2 months, I've been going after about 7 or 8 girls in my classes.

I see them each about 2x a week and follow "Models" and everything I've learned here to the letter. Especially Kino and inner game.

I go after all of them like I'm the king of the world and have them laughing and smiling in no time.

However, none of that matters. Because almost all of these girls gave me the exact same excuse when I asked them out.

I'm too ugly.

"If it wasn't for your face, we could totally hook up."

"I'm sorry, I just can't get past your face."

"You could be really cute if you got a nose job."

Etc, etc.

I thought maybe it was just a fluke, but it's a reoccurring trend in my life. Women will never look at me directly for extended periods of time, I've been called "one of the ugliest people" she's ever met, and it isn't changing anytime soon.

It's so hard to go through life knowing that no matter how hard I try, my face will and has driven people I care away.


I'm working on my inner game some more but it's getting more and more difficult. I just want somebody who can accept me like I accept myself, but pity is the extent of their affection.


Guys, NEVER take your face for granted. Take care of it and make sure you do everything you can to keep it in top form. Somethings in life are beyond your control but you will ALWAYS be better off than me. Do not squander what you've been given.

Thanks.

1. Do you have clear skin?
2. What is your body fat percent?

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basically, not enough attraction. nothing to do with looks.

That's plain bs, something PUAs tell each other because they can't do anything about their looks anyway. Game is about what you can affect. But that doesn't change the fact - looks matter. BUT!!! It's important to say that your game is much more important than your looks - the sentence could have ended there, but I also want to add - as long as you look rather "normal". Most of us look good enough, and will be accepted by most women.

I've heard that most couples differ only by two points on the arbitrary 10-graded scale of looks. That means that a girl which is considered a 7 can be seen with a man ranked somewhere between 5 and 9 and vice versa. And since most guys look better than a 5, this can give you the false illusion that looks don't matter.

Yeah, except for random hookups. A big thing PUA is based on, is ONS(particularly in bars and clubs), and there you much more frequently see women with looks equivalent at best, and in most cases, women leaving with men who are significantly more attractive than they are.
What PUAs don't tell you, is that most "naturals" with lay counts in the hundreds, are usually 8+ and banged chicks who are 2 points(and less) hotter than they are.

I'd say less than %2 of guys can hit up a club and have even a %50 chance of pulling a girl 2 points hotter than they are. It's a pretty rare skill, and based on the pictures of PUA "gurus" I've seen, not a skill very many of them have mastered. Out of every PUA I'm familiar with, Captain Jack is literally the only one who can consistently bag girls who are 3+ above him on a looks scale.

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RSDTyler

Hey brother,
I feel for you, I really do.

Before I launch into something long and deep, I wanna probe around a bit and find out more.

Can you tell me what it is that makes you ugly, specifically?
Second, you said you want someone to accept you the way you are, just like you do. But my question here is; do you really accept yourself? I mean truly.
Finally, I want to ask you if you think cavemen knew what they looked like? (this is very relevant).

"I was not good handsome, but I possessed something greater than looks..." - Casanova
"Give me five minutes to explain away my ugly face and I can bed the queen of France" - Voltaire

Love
Mack

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Post a picture. The guys face could be disformed or something.

the rule of thumb is, looks matter a LOT less than you think.
women mind doesn't work the same way. we are extremely visual. that's why you see ugly puas with 10s. that proves it.

Yes looks matter, especially if you are ugly. However, there is "ugly mans" game you can play. Such as "provider game" and other "power game"/rich game. ONS is especially difficult without resorting to those types of game if you are actually ugly. However, most guys who think they are ugly are probably just average.

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if looks mattered that much, you would still be a virgin

looks matter in a way they are important and they are not,sure you could get a nose job,but what would that say about your self confidence? you are ashamed of yourself,learn to embrace your natural looks.you can improve upon your looks by working out and cleaning your face with tea tree oil or other facial cleaning agents
maybe grow a beard? dont alter,cut,or change,just improve naturally,like you will in PUA
we arent all born with good looks,really most people arent since the invention of photoshop.just remember 100,000 guys like you are competing at the same game

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"Life is a chance,take all the ones you get".

what exactly makes you think that you're ugly? your face, your body, your skin?

the way you "package" yourself can make a big difference. you don't need to have model looks to pull 9's and 10's. but it certainly does help if you don't look like uncle fester.

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http://www.UltimateManMagazine.com

all guys are ugly
They just get shaved, take a bath n dress funky. Thats all to the looks in my opinion.

Juz work on these n u'll be fine.Believe me ive seen ugliest guys wid the hottest girls.

Wat i see is ur issue is not ur looks but ur own confidence in urself. Just be confident on who u r n dont let any girl De-value u. The reason they say it is that they know if they say this, u'll accept it (n not pursue em anymore). Or may b they say it coz they cant find any other excuse (Tht u'll believe) to ignore u.

SO chill out N be confident on who u r

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And people wonder why I preach "Looks matter a LOT" so loudly and often. Because so many in the community, still want to insist they either don't matter, or matter very little.
"Game" matter most for men in the 6-7 range. That's where you can have a sort of cute guy who can bang absolute knockouts, based on what he does.

But dudes settling in at 5 and below have pretty serious ceilings that are very infrequently broken. Men who are 6s can, with solid "game" and enough time, get 9+s.
A 4 will struggle to get even a 6, with an equal amount of "game".

Still, if your face is fucked up, you can get in good shape. I know a man who is genuinely quite hideous in the face, but he can bench 350. He doesn't date models, but they're somewhat above average.

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Agree. The guy is saying that girls are literally telling him his face is the problem, yet other guys just say looks don't matter. That's like a guy going on job interviews and he keeps getting told, I'd hire you, but you don't have a degree. Then other ppl tell him he doesn't need a degree. The community wants to not acknowledge that there are any setbacks to getting women. "Women aren't attracted to looks...lucky us." "Women don't want big dicks...lucky us." "Height doesn't matter...lucky us" You could be just a human head in a jar and the community will still tell you it doesn't matter. I've met ugly community guys who will preach looks don't matter but the girls they do date are 5's. When asked, why don't you have a 8 or 9 or 10, they say "I COULD get a 10...but I like fat girls for XYZ reason." Rolls eyes