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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:56 pm 
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Just want to know what you all think about this.

I've been with my girl for over a year now. We started out great. I have to say, I pitched the perfect game with her in order to close the deal.

Long story short, after over a year, I still use a lot of game on her. I find myself subconsciously negging her. She used to like them, but now she cries. Now my DHVs are now seen as insecurity. The only thing that works for me these days is that I am still able to have her crawling back to me after a fight, simply by harmlessly sarging. And even with that I don't think is healthy

When I decide to not use game, I come out as needy and I feel like the AFC I was before.

Any thoughts? Anyone in a similar situation?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:16 pm 
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Are you sure that you are negging correctly? Do you have a good reason for negging her? If you are just giving her a put down, then of course she will take it personally. If you are negging playfully, she shouldn't have an issue with it unless she is overly emotional. It reminds me of those guys who insult their girlfriends in order to make them insecure because they are afraid that they may leave them for another guy.

I always thought that verbalizing DHV is relatively weak for most occasions because it is nothing more than bragging and it can be seen through pretty easily. Now that your girlfriend has known you over a year she already knows who you are, so why do you need to brag to her?

But does game apply once you are in a relationship? Of course it does. It just doesn't mean you play the game the same way because you are playing the game on a different level.

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Are you sure that you are negging correctly? Do you have a good reason for negging her? If you are just giving her a put down, then of course she will take it personally. If you are negging playfully, she shouldn't have an issue with it unless she is overly emotional. It reminds me of those guys who insult their girlfriends in order to make them insecure because they are afraid that they may leave them for another guy.

I always thought that verbalizing DHV is relatively weak for most occasions because it is nothing more than bragging and it can be seen through pretty easily. Now that your girlfriend has known you over a year she already knows who you are, so why do you need to brag to her?

But does game apply once you are in a relationship? Of course it does. It just doesn't mean you play the game the same way because you are playing the game on a different level.
I always thought that verbalizing DHV is relatively weak for most occasions because it is nothing more than bragging and it can be seen through pretty easily. Now that your girlfriend has known you over a year she already knows who you are, so why do you need to brag to her?

But does game apply once you are in a relationship? Of course it does. It just doesn't mean you play the game the same way because you are playing the game on a different level.[/quote]

Perhaps I am negging incorrectly, but I tend to neg instinctively. I do my best to never show insecurity. I'm also quite subtle with my DHVs, if I verbalize anything, it would be something like "See I have good taste". Again, I feel I tend to do this instinctively.

Thanks for the honest reply by the way.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:34 pm 
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Perhaps I am negging incorrectly, but I tend to neg instinctively. I do my best to never show insecurity. I'm also quite subtle with my DHVs, if I verbalize anything, it would be something like "See I have good taste". Again, I feel I tend to do this instinctively.
Sometimes there are women that are just overly sensitive. There are some that are always looking for something to be wrong with a relationship. How you've just described it, I would assume that she lean towards to being overly sensitive and insecure with herself and you should probably do more to build her up and make every attempt not to bring her down...especially if she doesn't deserve to be brought down.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:21 am 
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You get a very feminine and sensitive gf and then you treat her like that...what a douche you must be.
If it was me I'd be long gone tbh. :lol:


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I've never applied much of the PUA tactics to how deal with women period so I can't speak for game related to women in this sense.

But as far as DHV'ing... I don't see why you a need to show value to someone who you are in a relationship with? Last time I checked true value comes from the inside and not from the things you say about yourself. If you're valuable people are going to know it based off of the way you behave and carry yourself. I never seen such a thing as being necessary. When you are it, you don't have to act like it.

Whats an example of a "neg" you deliver in a relationship?

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Game gets the girl in bed. Orgasms get her emotions for you going.

Once you are in a relationship, game is irrelevant and I don't use it. The only thing you need to focus on once in a relationship is, does this woman meet your desires in a relationship. If she does, do your best to meet hers. And EVERY woman wants a man who is strong, admirable, and knows how to please them sexually.

In other words, the game is over when you are in a relationship. How would you like it if she constantly negged you, said and did things to display value. The truth is, at that point, all you want is someone who makes your life easier, makes you happier, and keeps your balls empty. Neither party needs game to do this.


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Game gets the girl in bed. Orgasms get her emotions for you going.

Once you are in a relationship, game is irrelevant and I don't use it. The only thing you need to focus on once in a relationship is, does this woman meet your desires in a relationship. If she does, do your best to meet hers. And EVERY woman wants a man who is strong, admirable, and knows how to please them sexually.

In other words, the game is over when you are in a relationship. How would you like it if she constantly negged you, said and did things to display value. The truth is, at that point, all you want is someone who makes your life easier, makes you happier, and keeps your balls empty. Neither party needs game to do this.
Could not disagree more. Game is always needed. You must always be the alpha in your girl's life. If you aren't, she will resent you, nag you and possibly leave or cheat on you for an alpha. Game isn't about "negs", it is about understanding women better and making the most of you.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:41 am 
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Game gets the girl in bed. Orgasms get her emotions for you going.

Once you are in a relationship, game is irrelevant and I don't use it. The only thing you need to focus on once in a relationship is, does this woman meet your desires in a relationship. If she does, do your best to meet hers. And EVERY woman wants a man who is strong, admirable, and knows how to please them sexually.

In other words, the game is over when you are in a relationship. How would you like it if she constantly negged you, said and did things to display value. The truth is, at that point, all you want is someone who makes your life easier, makes you happier, and keeps your balls empty. Neither party needs game to do this.

Great advice. If you're gaming in a relationship you're not being yourself and sacrificing your happiness.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:58 am 
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It's not "game" if its who you are.

You could maybe stop being such a dick to her (that's all I think when I hear neg. You don't need to neg a girl. You just need to be able to stand up for yourself.) and stop telling stupid "dhv" stories. You don't need to "game" her and "build attraction." She already likes you. Just be you.

This post is so fucking stupid its irritating. The fact that you think you've been "gaming" this girl you've been in a relationship with for the last year. Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

It's not what you do. It's who you are.


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It's not "game" if its who you are.

You could maybe stop being such a dick to her (that's all I think when I hear neg. You don't need to neg a girl. You just need to be able to stand up for yourself.) and stop telling stupid "dhv" stories. You don't need to "game" her and "build attraction." She already likes you. Just be you.

This post is so fucking stupid its irritating. The fact that you think you've been "gaming" this girl you've been in a relationship with for the last year. Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

It's not what you do. It's who you are.
Girls leave guys all the time. You can't be who you are to keep a girl, unless you are person who knows how to naturally respond to female behaviors well and remain so, tests by them etc. Women don't stop being women. There are many, many game concepts that apply even after 20 years of marriage. You know what a hen-pecked husband or a cuckolded one is?

Many men get lazy when they are in a relationship. The young athletic guy who hits the gym and pursues women, slowly becomes the older guy who hits the beer can and pursues the doritos. As they transform themselves, they slip deeper and deeper into betatude, increasingly starting to feel less and less abundance, while showing more and more appeasement to their wives and girlfriends and they just slide even further down the beta channel.

I am sorry: In a broad sense, game always applies.


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Girls leave guys all the time. You can't be who you are to keep a girl, unless you are person who knows how to naturally respond to female behaviors well and remain so, tests by them etc. Women don't stop being women. There are many, many game concepts that apply even after 20 years of marriage. You know what a hen-pecked husband or a cuckolded one is?

Many men get lazy when they are in a relationship. The young athletic guy who hits the gym and pursues women, slowly becomes the older guy who hits the beer can and pursues the doritos. As they transform themselves, they slip deeper and deeper into betatude, increasingly starting to feel less and less abundance, while showing more and more appeasement to their wives and girlfriends and they just slide even further down the beta channel.

I am sorry: In a broad sense, game always applies.
this.

there's pick-up game and there's relationship/maintenance game. if you use pick-up game during a relationship you're out of your mind. if you do not use relationship/maintenance game in a relationship you're out of your mind.

i'm naturally a very friendly, affectionate dude. i show this often in my relationships, but sometimes i don't show affection to my gf even when i want to. i do this because i know it isn't healthy for the dynamic of the relationship. that she should always be showing me more affection than i show her. that's an example of me using maintenance or relationship game. if you don't do stuff like this every now and then, you'll create an unhealthy dynamic, and the relationship will suffer.

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It's not "game" if its who you are.

You could maybe stop being such a dick to her (that's all I think when I hear neg. You don't need to neg a girl. You just need to be able to stand up for yourself.) and stop telling stupid "dhv" stories. You don't need to "game" her and "build attraction." She already likes you. Just be you.

This post is so fucking stupid its irritating. The fact that you think you've been "gaming" this girl you've been in a relationship with for the last year. Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

It's not what you do. It's who you are.
Girls leave guys all the time. You can't be who you are to keep a girl, unless you are person who knows how to naturally respond to female behaviors well and remain so, tests by them etc. Women don't stop being women. There are many, many game concepts that apply even after 20 years of marriage. You know what a hen-pecked husband or a cuckolded one is?

Many men get lazy when they are in a relationship. The young athletic guy who hits the gym and pursues women, slowly becomes the older guy who hits the beer can and pursues the doritos. As they transform themselves, they slip deeper and deeper into betatude, increasingly starting to feel less and less abundance, while showing more and more appeasement to their wives and girlfriends and they just slide even further down the beta channel.

I am sorry: In a broad sense, game always applies.
No shit dude.

It all comes down to one thing though... Don't turn into a little bitch.

If you're a year and a half into a relationship with a girl and you think your DHV stories and negs are keeping her around, you're really fucked up in the head. Did you ever think... "hmm? Maybe she just likes me for who I am?"

"Game" is just a front. It's an act that guys put on. It's what human beings do. We mimic other people. We are like parrots.

Ever heard the saying "you are a product of your environment"....?

All "PUA" has you do is mimic things that a guy who gets laid does and some of his personality traits that work for him. That's it. Quit being all weird about this shit. No wonder your girlfriend doesn't like you anymore. You're still trying to DHV her or whatever.

You don't have to "game" a girl if she actually fucking likes you.

Once again, it's not what you do. It's who you are.


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It's not "game" if its who you are.

You could maybe stop being such a dick to her (that's all I think when I hear neg. You don't need to neg a girl. You just need to be able to stand up for yourself.) and stop telling stupid "dhv" stories. You don't need to "game" her and "build attraction." She already likes you. Just be you.

This post is so fucking stupid its irritating. The fact that you think you've been "gaming" this girl you've been in a relationship with for the last year. Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

It's not what you do. It's who you are.
Girls leave guys all the time. You can't be who you are to keep a girl, unless you are person who knows how to naturally respond to female behaviors well and remain so, tests by them etc. Women don't stop being women. There are many, many game concepts that apply even after 20 years of marriage. You know what a hen-pecked husband or a cuckolded one is?

Many men get lazy when they are in a relationship. The young athletic guy who hits the gym and pursues women, slowly becomes the older guy who hits the beer can and pursues the doritos. As they transform themselves, they slip deeper and deeper into betatude, increasingly starting to feel less and less abundance, while showing more and more appeasement to their wives and girlfriends and they just slide even further down the beta channel.

I am sorry: In a broad sense, game always applies.


No shit dude.

It all comes down to one thing though... Don't turn into a little bitch.

If you're a year and a half into a relationship with a girl and you think your DHV stories and negs are keeping her around, you're really fucked up in the head. Did you ever think... "hmm? Maybe she just likes me for who I am?"

"Game" is just a front. It's an act that guys put on. It's what human beings do. We mimic other people. We are like parrots.

Ever heard the saying "you are a product of your environment"....?

All "PUA" has you do is mimic things that a guy who gets laid does and some of his personality traits that work for him. That's it. Quit being all weird about this shit. No wonder your girlfriend doesn't like you anymore. You're still trying to DHV her or whatever.

You don't have to "game" a girl if she actually fucking likes you.

Once again, it's not what you do. It's who you are.
i think I wasn't explaing well. You wouldn't use an indirect opener on the third date, does that mean you have abandoned game? When I say game, I am not talking tactics like openers, canned routines or a heavy neg you would use on a very attractive 25 yo. I am talking about understanding the fundamentals and why they work. There is nothing wrong with a little push pull 10 years into a relationship, but it would be done vastly different than 10 days in. Heck, even a neg now and then could fit certain situatuons, but again, it would be vastly different than a neg a minute into a cold approach, a lot softer more subtle or, with obvious whit/humor.


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