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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:07 pm 
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Again, to KEEP a woman, the goal is NOT to make her feel good but rather giving her the full spectrum and variety of emotions (including feeling good) that human females crave.
Does that mean give her anger and hatred and fear and envy and jealousy. (this seems manipulative to me)

here is the BIG question. Can there be a happy RS without having to make the other person jealous, envious, angry etc.

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Does that mean give her anger and hatred and fear and envy and jealousy. (this seems manipulative to me)
Being a normal human being is NOT manipulative. If you cannot feel those emotions or give them, then you are NOT a normal human being.

A manipulative person is someone who keeps on asking for favors without any intention of reciprocating what he/she has taken. A manipulative person just takes. He/she does not want to give.

For instance, a scam artist just takes your money without giving you anything of value; hence, a scam artist is a manipulative person. A lawyer who keeps on taking your money and yet keeps on losing every argument of your case is a manipulative person.

A woman who tells you straight to your face that you should give her everything she asks for without expecting anything in return is a manipulative person.

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Women don't operate on the same logical ideas of 'fairness' that guys do. Fairness is way too logical for the feminine. Once you understand that women operate almost purely on their current emotions, you will let all that 'fairness' stuff go. Make her feel good in the moment, and all is good.

Ever noticed how a woman can be incredibly upset with you about something, and the next moment, without ANY LOGICAL RESOLUTION whatsoever, she is happy again. And you're left thinking 'what the fuck was that all about?' Its because everything she was saying when she was pissed was based PURELY on those emotions.


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Ever noticed how a woman can be incredibly upset with you about something, and the next moment, without ANY LOGICAL RESOLUTION whatsoever, she is happy again. And you're left thinking 'what the fuck was that all about?' Its because everything she was saying when she was pissed was based PURELY on those emotions.
A woman brushing her teeth or taking an early morning shower before going to work is a conditioned reflex. Those rituals have been ingrained into her behavior through social conditioning since childhood. Sure, some days she may not feel like taking a shower at all but most days, she will.

Men and women can in fact condition other people (both men and women) towards positive reciprocal (fair) behavior. However, women or men can just as easily condition other people towards behaviors that work to other peoples' detriment.

Reciprocity, reciprocal behavior, or fairness in relationships is in fact social conditioning. If someone gives you a gift on Christmas, you just can't help but give the giver something in return.

On the other hand, a girlfriend or wife who doesn't want to reciprocate the good things that you do for her is a person who does not conform to social norms. She has, in fact, anti-social behavior. For a healthy and happy relationship, men should screen out women with anti-social behavior instead of trying to fix the problem. It's easier this way.

However, in the OP's case, her girlfriend is NOT anti-social. She in facts reciprocates the good things that the OP does for her. The problem is that, she seems to have been unwittingly conditioning the OP towards a one-sided, non-reciprocal relationship.

So my advice to the OP is to take back the masculine control and condition her girlfriend towards positive behavior that conforms better to social norms.

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Again, to KEEP a woman, the goal is NOT to make her feel good but rather giving her the full spectrum and variety of emotions (including feeling good) that human females crave.
Does that mean give her anger and hatred and fear and envy and jealousy. (this seems manipulative to me)

here is the BIG question. Can there be a happy RS without having to make the other person jealous, envious, angry etc.

OP....youre in the right track. If you wanna lose your girl get all manipulative and gamey with her as suggested. Get her mad and feeling like shit just so you can reel her in to be the one that makes her feel good. Fuck that, thats needy ass shit. How about just being human and focus on vibing and connecting with her on an emotional level. That will get you the "range of emotions" others are suggesting you try and manipulate her into experiencing.

Everyone tried to overthink "game" and thus create problems where there are none. Granted don't be a pushover, def stand up for yourself when she's crossed a boundary, but for god sakes do things to appreciate her. That's what true, loving relationships are based on. Something, it seems, some posters have an uncanny lack of knowledge about.

I might not be the best at picking up a chick at a bar, but I am amazing at establishing a deep emotional connection, showing my girl that I appreciate the hell out of her and at the same time not being weak and needy which in turn causes her to see me for the put together MAN I am...not some manipulative boy looking to control her out of insecurity and fear of loss.


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OP.....am I correct in my understanding that the root of the problem seems to be that your girl does not feel the reciprocation from you? That she feels she does more for you than you for her?


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OP.....am I correct in my understanding that the root of the problem seems to be that your girl does not feel the reciprocation from you? That she feels she does more for you than you for her?
Its quite the opposite. I feel like I do more than she does.

But its over (or quite over) already. We are not in "relationship". She gave me LJBF and I agreed without any drama or negative reaction.

Somehow she rationalized and told me it will be better to remain just friends as we were before. I didn't protested and it didn't made me emotional. There was something that made her rationalize our short intimate adventure (because it is arguable that I can say it was relationship). We kissed and did massage each other for about a month and slept together once.

Actually as I think I made that happen. I used body language and flirt tactics hence she got into me, however eventually her memory of me in the past probably kicked in and she rationalized that it is not good to destroy our "friendship" with intimacy.

I think the reason she did that was either A) not enough attraction at first or B) she didn't felt comfortable enough with me, not enough connected, because on several occasions she told me I was too sexually pushy and cheeky with her (I honestly I quite am like that, since I try to escalate). Now I realize that that way I skipped the moment of she chasing me - which is something women like.


So now I'm at squire 1 with her just with less things I could apply toward she could get attracted to me. Perhaps somehow make her chase me.

However besides that I also want to have her as a friend (someone I can trust onto), but a real friend, not LJBF (which in reality means nothing). So I'll probably not game her and just be normal around her trying to establish some more deep genuine connection with her.

how do you think about that?

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