So i ve approached a no. of girls in my institution, the place where i do 90% of my sarging. N everytime m doing my game, i get the same result N its become more of a pettern now.i.e
I approach, engage the girl, she gets attracted, get2 or 3 meetings wid her, but after that she starts backing off...
I've tried convincing her through different routines, tried to ignore her when she says she cant do this but nothing worked.One typical line i hear from all of them is "I cant be friends wid u bcz I am not that type of girl" ... or "There r many other girls who would like u...Go to them"

I did some thought on it, asked a friend of mine n wat she said was that all the girls think that u r a player n u have many other girls in your life.So they think u r gonna leave them once u get laid wid them.

Now ive watched many rsd videos n pua tips. N wat every one seems to say is that the more the girl sees u wid other girls, the more social proof she gets n the more cmfortable she'll feel appraoching u..

But this doesnt seem to be the case here..Instead i get the opposite result
Wat should I do ??

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This is odd. The math doesn't add up. If a girl is meeting up with you for a second time, she is usually interested in you and sees you as a potential sexual partner. So I have some questions:

1. At what point is she saying "I'm not that type of girl"?
2. What do you say or do to isolate her?
3. I naturally assume she is rejecting you when it comes to sex. Is that true?

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If you don't mind me asking, what is the place at which you're doing this? If it's your high school or small college, then that might occur.

blackhat22 absolutely not..Yea u r ryte..M doing it in my university. Actually most of the opportunities i get r here as approaching openly in malls, coffee shops is very difficult bcz its considered very bad n most girls r wid their parents, brothers or family when out...Though i agree there r some guys who ve found a way to approach directly in malls n coffee shops even in spite of these lots of complications..I wud say my game is not upto that level that i approach in open malls n shops etc (Y is it difficult to approach in malls n coffee shops here in my country ...thts a separate topic..as for now its just abt the culture here)

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JackZero First i forgot to mention that i hadn't no. closed the girl. As i said before m sarging in my university so its more of an occasional meeting.. I see the girl n go n talk to her.

Second, ive tried no. closing the girl on the 1st meeting but it failed every time..Either the girl wud refuse or wud say the same "I cant do this bcz bla bla..." (probably shes under a lot of social pressure)

NOw answering ur qs in sequence

1) Usually its when i start to develop closeness wid her.like initially m funny n talking general stuff (while being funny) she's fine.But when i start flirting wid her n shift towards asking her number or asking her on a drink (instant date) or on the next day, thats when she says "U r getting too frank...I m not that type of girl..."

2) Normally i approach when shes wid one or 2 friends max. THe few times i tried to isolate the girl she either wudn't come or wud just walk away, thus breaking the conversation.

3) Well sex is a bit far to be honest, Recently i tried kino wid her (still i hadnt no. closed the girl) she was fine wid kino. But when i asked her no. she said she didnt have any cell or even a fb account or email (wich was flaking for sure). So i met her the next day, she waited at the spot where we met, smiled when i walked towars her but just wudn't give me her no. Once she even agreed on a date but didn't come.
My own assumption is that the girls r very much under social pressure as its a conservative society.. But again for some other guys it doesn't happen. Y only me ??? I dont understand..
Any help wud b great...

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This is where the problem is. Since this isn't too detailed on the signals you're sending her, I get the impression that the vibe you give off is that you are out for sex when you are attempting to get a number. If you're asking for her number in order to visit her room or her visit yours, you are pretty much saying come over for sex. If your instadate is going for alcohol, you're saying lets get drunk and then have sex. This is what happens when you have a reputation for being a PUA/player, their ASD is going to kick into high gear once you move in that direction. College/University is nothing but a huge social circle and these women are protecting themselves from the stigma of being played in front of everyone.

Since your reputation is a problem, you have some choices.
1. Do your pickup away from school.
2. Learn how to seduce a group and build attraction through competition.
3. Get them to believe that you're not that type of guy either.

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My style of game is also Cocky Funny so may b u r ryte about this one. So should i become less cocky ?? Or try some nice guy method to reduce this vibe ??
thnx for ur suggestions.
1) M working on it
3) Ive tried my ass off but it didn't work. May b I dont know how to convince/manipulate a girl's mind

2) I think this is my one weak point.

Recently i sarged a girl. I saw her a few times in a cafe n we had a bit of chit chat. So next time i saw her she was giving me IOIS. I went over n talked to her.She was wid a new group of frnds. No initially one of her frnds (a hot one) was very into me was giving me IOIS too. But then i gave a vibe to my target that m interested in her not her friend n this is where i did it all wrong. Her friend got pissed off (I cud see frm her face). She immediately got off from table n said we should go n the whole group followed her. So my target had to go wid her as she was wid her group of friends.
Baam. My scene ruined. Haven't seen her since.

Any suggestions on this one ??

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What I'm saying is that if you are asking for their number, don't give them the impression that you are going to use it to isolate them. Say that you're going to call them so you guys can meet up for something like a party, or coffee, or something seemingly more innocent. If you go on an instadate, don't make the instadate for alcohol. An instadate should also be seemingly more innocent. A simple walk, juice or coffee, or something else that keeps her from believing that you are attempting to seduce her. Stay with being cocky funny because your goal is to make her attracted to you without making her believe you have a motive. If she doesn't think you have a motive, she will be more comfortable in allowing you to isolate her to your room or her room later or at your next meeting. When I say seduce the group, what I mean is to charm an entire group without giving an indication that you want a specific girl in the group. This is more of a patience game because you'll have to walk away without closing any of them. Once you leave, they'll all want your attention (at least a few) and that will increase your attractiveness. So the next time you see them you'll be able to choose one. Or if you see one alone she'll be open for you to seduce her.

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this is some very useful advice. N i think it might just b one of my sticking points so far (apart from my reputation).

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Why would you want to manipulate a girl's mind? What kind of fucking asshole are you? The girls you are trying your hardest to manipulate can see right through you and I'm not surprised they want fuck all to do with you. The mistake you idiots make on here is that you think most girls are dumb or stupid and because you're a man you think it's gonna be easy to play your fucked up mind games with them. Well guess what. It's not gonna work. Try and be a bit more fucking sincere instead of thinking with your fucking dick the whole time. Why would a girl want to go out with a dude who sticks his dick into anything that moves? What kind of a turn on is that? Christ you guys are fucking stupid.

The way u speak actually tells wat kind ov an asshole r YOU for sure... M uncertain abt me though

As for ur ans, u dun even tried to.knw the real prob. Mind Games ?? Seriously ?? Coz thts wat they accuse me for..n thts wat I actually feel abt these gals who do this...That they make fun ov my sincere intentions n play games...By manipulating i meant letting her knw my true feelings n removing her insecurities abt me...
Guys like u juz join this forum to show off others their pathetic mindset n not interested in giving actuall advice n helping some one out...
Seems to me u juz got dumped by some hot chick n took out ur anger on me instead...

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When you approach girls that are outside of your university and have no idea who you are are you getting results or are you still getting no results?

It could be any number of things. How you approach, that you are reacting too much when a girl says you are a player, that you have blown yourself out with too many girls giving yourself a negative reputation.

Need more info.

I've made some approaches. In that case I didnt feel this prob.But the no. of approaches is less outside so cant really say anythng.Note tht the demographics here r very different than European n American countries.
I've tried both.i.e over reacting and being normal. Result was the same.
its a girl (an old frnd ov mine whom i left coz she was too difficult to bear wid) she spread negative repo abt me. Actually girls in my society r very conservative. I faced a similar situation before where i used to just talk to a girl but a bunch of gals(3s or 4s who knew i wud never sarge them) made an issue of it n spoiled my repo out of jelosy.
The thng m askin is a frnd of mine says that u can still convince a gal inspite ov all ur bad repo if u explain to her tht its just rumours etc. However ive tried everythng n every way to cnvince a gal but it didnt work.
As a result they all hve now strted this routine of "blowing me off after 2 meetings" to make me feel the heat of "rejection" coz thts wat tht gal (the frnd whom i stopped talkin) has spread i.e m a pua n i dump/leave gals after i use them.
N uptill now yea ive been blown by quite a no. of gals. In some cases i covered it up by blowing them off instead. e.g in one case she said i dun wana talk to u.N i said straight away i thot u liked me thts y i talked to u..otherwise i dun talk to gals who r not interested in me..(i caught her here i guess). Anyhow when she strted explaining tht she never gave me any iois or stuff i interrupted her n said "ok fine...bye" n never talked to her again..It came a bit surprise to her n she gave me iois after tht for some days but i knew she'd do the same when i'd approach.So i never talked to her (not completely but tried to cver up my rejection)

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You can say if you've had any results.

I really doubt that in a setting as large as a university that you'd have that bad of a reputation unless you actually had screwed over alot of the girls. I think you are working with a very small sample and need to expand your game.

How many people attend your university? Can you go out and hit on girls that aren't in your direct social circle and don't know other girls you've had bad experience with.

You have to understand the subtleties of "having women around attracts more women." In your case it sounds like your hitting on a tiny number of girls who all know each other and one or two girls in that group has told all the other ones that you are an asshole or that you are going to sleep with them and never talk to them again.

Now there are alot of girls that would be up for that if they think you are a popular alpha guy. But they don't want their girlfriends knowing. They are getting the "anti-slut defense". They don't want their friends knowing that they are getting with a guy that has been deemed a "bad guy" in their little group. If you had slept with on of them and she told her friends "yea I slept with him, nothing serious, he's a kinda cool guy it was just a fling thing" then all of the other girls would be curious and it would up your value. But if she's telling them that you did something that offended her, it lowers your value, especially if they are a close knit group.

My suggestion, quit making excuses and go out and hit on other social circles. Cut the "girls are conservative here" mantra and go out. It's keeping you from meeting more girls.

Thnx for ur advice. I will look fwd to approaching outside this social circle.I just reviewed the few approaches i made outside this circle n i realized i had pretty mucb good score in that
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just fr the record,dun knw whether it matters to u or not, but university is a large place.yes.
but most of the people (about 80%) r hostelites here.
i.e students frm diff departments live together in a same building or atleast a few blocks away max.
So any event happens,even though a lil one, it spreads like fire...
thts y inspite of this large university, the whole of the university is cnverged into a large social circle fully interconnected wid each other..
Besides, to my surprise, people here hve a really strange habit of gossiping abt every one n anythng here..so tht might also b the reason fr this...

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