hi, met a girl, got her number, met up for drinks, i thought it went very well, strong eye contact, kino, k close, lots in common.

i called her 48hrs later, no response. i didn't leave a voicemail. she hasn't got back to me

3 questions: should i have left a simple voicemail saying "hi XXXXX its YYYYY call me back when you're free"
should i call again, and if so what timeframe? another 48hours?
should i text her?

thanks

I think you might have called too soon, shoulda gave it a full three days before touching base. If she's interested, she'll call you. If not, you'll never hear from her again. Since you called after two days, give her a week. If no response within 7 days then just move on. I don't know where you live, but this is also the holiday season so don't be surprised if you're forgotten in the holiday shuffle.

Since you both don't really know each other that well, contact via a simple text message and try to setup another date. Texting is a low pressure form of communication and gives her time to craft a proper response, as opposed to putting her on the spot. Women avoid pressure situations like the plague. Personally, when I get a voice mail saying "call me," it makes me want to wait extra long before I call them back. If I want to call you, i'll call you. Don't ask me to call you.

If you are going to text, don't be boring. Send a cool picture of you doing something fun and say "I bet you wish you were here!" Have fun with it, be creative. Your text should elicit positive/fun emotions out of her, not leech her time.

Weird question, why does text game stuff say to wait 2-3 days? Is it to not be needy?

From my understanding, it's to:

-not appear needy/clingy
-let her know she isn't the only thing going on in your life
-build up the anticipation
-the more she wonders if you're going to call, the more she'll be thinking about you.
-Then once you finally do call, she'll feel validated and be on an emotional high (which makes securing another date very easy).

But of course, none of this means anything if she isn't interested in the first place.

I feel like 3 days is long enough to build up the anticipation but not too long that she feels forgotten. But hey, I could be wrong.

It's to keep from appearing too eager and needy. It's probably a good idea for guys with no self control or get attached too easily. I think for guys who are experienced with women or can exercise restraint, it's more hurtful than helpful.

The more in demand a woman is, the more calls/text she is going to get from other men. If you are waiting three days she'll likely move onto the next guy.

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Yeah I agree, it depends on how in demand she is. If we are talking 6-7's, the majority of guys chasing her are likely thirsty AFCs, so taking your time won't hurt. It's unlikely any of them will be capable of sweeping her off her feet within 3 days. For 8-9-10s you'll likely be competing with attractive naturals.

One thing most guys don’t realize is, if a girl is really hot, she is most likely incredibly busy most of the time. She probably is off doing something and genuinely missed your call.

The key is to make sure you DON’T GET OFFENDED.

Just call her once, and if she doesn’t answer, hang up.

She will probably call you back eventually. If she doesn’t, I’d wait 5-7 day, then you can try again.

But you’re better off going out and doing your thing until she calls back. Don’t stop your life just because you’re interested in this girl. That’s a super low status behavior.

And we all know low status is no bueno

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Yeah, this is what I was thinking. A girl who you met online or is active and social will most likely be talking to and dating a few guys. So if you're texting her less than they are, they're building more investment and familiarity which would make them get prioritized for meeting up. Let's say you meet a girl for date on Monday. It goes well. You wait until Wednesday to text her to meet up Friday. Friday she's busy but agrees to Sunday. Basically you're doing a date a week with no contact in between. Now lets say you meet Monday and date, it goes well. You text her the next day a bit. In between texts on wednesday she says she'll be in your neck of the woods. You meet and do a quick date. You can meet quicker. Also the anticipation thing is bs in my opinion. Girls are ADHD now, people are needing constant stimulation to keep interested in something. I think if the girl is one of those who chills at home or works alot, a text every 3 days would work fine. But if you're dating a girl who is talking to other dudes, you're slowly getting forgotten. Even 6s and 7's have multiple guys online or if they go out.

You can call her or text her whenever you want to again. There's no time frame. Just make sure you're not doing it out of neediness. (Meaning go meet more girls and call her cause you really like her. Not just because hers is the only number that you've got.)

Maybe she doesn't like you? Maybe she's just been busy? Who knows?

I also think you're seeing a little too much investment on her end after just a kiss. A kiss really doesn't mean shit. Honestly, I've fucked girls and they've not returned my phone calls. It just happens sometimes. I wish I had an explanation for you other than "girls are flakey" but that's what it is. You just gotta learn to deal with it.

I have to fully agree it can be more hurtful to wait 3 days. I never go with this rule i think its BS especially girls in high demand and girls who are on there social media/text alot.

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