I like this quote I got from Charles... I like it much because it just seems to be true on many aspects. I would like you, Charles, to develop on this idea.

More precisely, could I get many ideas on HOW to SHOW girls you like them. Specialy when they are too cold for physical escalation.

I would also like a kind of relatively order to get to the ... beauty talk... and love talk....

The original thread OP is talking about is here:
reassurance-of-a-girls-feelings-vt185831.html

In it, another user (Eddie F) gives another angle on it which I think is valid too... Depends on how you do things, really and how smooth you can convey ideas to someone. How confidently you can do it, messaging, etc...

Anyway, in my experience, every girl I have ever actually come out and said I liked, wanted to date, etc hasn't ended well. It's happened many times. Immediately friend-zoned. I'm positive that's been the experience of a lot of guys here.

For me, it was probably what pushed me into making life changes and improvements in the first place. I couldn't figure out what the hell I was doing wrong.

I don't know exactly what it is in a woman's brain, but as soon as you say those words, they tend to eject (maybe if you said them differently? I don't know. I know I've tried several 'versions' of those words many times in the past). I think it has to do with the chase and wanting what she can't have. As soon as you tell her you're into her, the challenge is gone.

How do you SHOW her you like her? I think the most important thing is touching... Kino. Friends don't hold each others' hands when they walk down the street... Kissing is a pretty blatant symbol of "I like you" which you can convey without actually saying the words...

Believe me, they'll get the point that you're interested in being more than friends when you're making out with them. Girls aren't dumb.

This is mostly true, though not entirely. It basically is all about being in sync with her mind. If she hasn't decided she wants you to be her boyfriend, etc and you suggest it via words, she will shut it down right then and there. Because then she feels pressure. And girls hate feeling pressure(why they usually make crappy leaders). They're also very emotional, and conversations are logical. He logic and emotions are rarely in sync.

However, if she has already decided "I want Jeff to be my boyfriend <3" and Jeff says "Jenny, I really like you, will you be my girlfriend?" the answer will be yes.

She will not suddenly do a 180 on you. It may seem that way if you try this, because she was flirty and seemed interested, but she wasn't where you are. She hadn't reached the same conclusion.

That said, because you cannot read a woman's mind, this is not a good idea. You don't want to do it this way. It has a very bad success rate.

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I also wrote this on a former post..

" Its not about what you say its about how you say it man. When I like a girl I can't help but constantly shower her with sweet words that describe my current feelings for her. But thats just me, I don't know how to keep my mouth shut -- never have and don't think that I want to.

When I feel sexual toward a girl I shower her with words that describe my current sexual desire. I'm just an open guy; and very articulate so I always come up with new surprising words and analogies to describe my current feelings.

You just have to let it out man; if you truly like her and are just not trying to convince yourself that you do it shouldn't be a problem. I only struggle with the women that i am trying to force myself to seduce. The women I actually like are easy to seduce because all I have to do is say whats real.

The only way telling a girl you like her and why you do can back fire is if you are doing it to please her. When I shower women with compliments and affection I am not trying to please them. I'm pleasing myself because I enjoy expressing myself and seeing people marveled at my self expression; they just get to benefit on the back end of that.

So just make sure its real and you aren't trying to make them like you by telling them you like them. I could careless whether a woman likes me back or not; I'm going to tell her how I feel and she can take it and run with it or just run. Either way, I'm happy to be expressing myself."

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I Personally think all these points are valid - if use are both on the same wave length and you know she likes you shes not going to flip it round unless you do something radical telling her how you feel is not radical !

However charles is also right in the fact girls hate pressure i remember this from my younger days of say 14/15 when a friend would go chat up the girl you liked and try get her to kiss you or whatever! THIS PUT HUGE PRESSURE ON HER ! so it rarely worked. that's the first time i noticed it.

So on the whole i think it all comes down to the girl and where shes at in her life. You'll find a girl who wants a boyfriend and will declare her love for you before you do her but there will be girls who are only looking to date and can be easily scared off when you say you like them !

All you have to do is read the signs.

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