Yep, see it as a one on one connection and not as "just another girl." They're individual beings, just as you are. Treat them as such.

I prefer your post because there is no link involved = adding value

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I meet a lot of people for job-purposes and due to the job I get to know them very personal, this isn't some superficial sales job but requires regular contact during some time (weeks/months).

In addition to my professional life I also have a personal life where I also meet a lot of people.

I'm not counting but I guess I only have sex with 1 out of 300 approaches (and then I only count the warm approaches). Guess what, that number stills give a very decent sex life.

But note that I'm not counting and certainly not focused on getting laid; sex is something natural that comes with having a good time, enjoying her company and being alpha.

I think OP needs to have a more genuine approach. I think routines are ridiculous as is tactics. I do not care whether or not they work. The point is that, unless it is innate, you will not manage to uphold the behavior so, longevity is not in your favor. I found watching Johnny Berba and John Cooper as quite helpful in the genuine approach. I like rsd for the entire freedom from out come, intent, and self amusing.

I kind of agree with Mack. You should put out yourself and let women like or not like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvVe92mi5k

V.V. says it best right there ^^^

OP, read Way of the Superior Man by David Deida. It sounds like you are pu obsessed. Have a life and hobbies outside this stuff. I am in a trade school and working quite a bit. On breaks, I approach and meet new people but, I have a core purpose. Its the route in which I penetrate life.

Going back to the whole, likes me or doesn't like me, I had a situation recently. I pulled a girl back and she wanted a gangbang. I am disgusted contrary to the whole, "you cannot say that." I just did. I am grossed out by these kinds of women as I should be. Now, I am not suppose to get the gangbang nor am I suppose to get turned on by her. She will have other suitors and I will find someone better for me.

I'm back...

I stopped doing pickup for about a 2-3 months.


I Totally disregarded all the advice given to me and started fresh.

I found just being myself works best. Not relying on any form of game that was taught to me has killed my 600+ streak.

I appreciate your advice however studying any kind of pua is the worst decision ever (long term wise).

My advice to anyone reading this thread is to forget game and just talk to women.

By not relying on any pua game I feel that I've unlocked my own inner "game".

Finally... You've understood.

Good man. Good luck on your journey

With love and respect
Mack

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Go after my dreams and date girls I'm interested in.

Oh and FYI to peeps complaining about looks it doesn't matter... if a girl cares about looks that much just move on...

I've been into something similar, but night game.

Since september to december, around 400 approaches = no date
I started using mystery method and the routines. Full of flakes.

The thing about natural game is that, you want what Warped discussed in another thread; you want her to feel the universe brought you two together but, you want to feel and believe that too. That is noble but, it is not all that effective most times. I feel it is "natural" game if I approach with real interest in the girl.

The best example I can give you is a job hunt or flyer resumes for a career. It is a lot of work, the payout is usually less than stellar, and overall, it lacks efficiency despite all the productivity. What I think you are doing is speaking volumes in terms of effort but, it is yielding less results. Understand, PU is marketed to men who do not get girls. Of course, looks matter which is dismissed with "cut from a different cloth" narratives.

Continue to do more PU but, use emotional spikes that are original. Do not steal crap from PU that has already been done before. If you do "routines," again, be original having did it through experience. After all the know how it becomes routine to just be extroverted but, I find it draining too. All the effort in PU is not always that productive or valuable. Maximize the most of each opportunity. Also, do hard PU cold approach but, also do use technology like tinder or okcupid.

like i said before you responded, forget everything and be genuine.

I'm a little suspicious of the op. He states he did 600 approaches then "suddenly" abbandoned everything and talks normally now he is getting dates. This does not make sense for a number of reasons.

1. After 600 approaches you habituated certain things into your personality through neural networks. It's nearly impossible to just all of a sudden throw all habits away and start with a clean slate. Conceptually people would like to think this, but it isn't true. The networks are physical things wired in your brain that don't disappear over night.

2. You didn't define what this "talking normally" thing is and how it's any different than how you were talking before.

I have a feeling you're someone from a camp. You created a thread to bait people into giving you advice on a skillset your camp is opposed to then turn around and promote the thing your camp is into.

Then again, who knows, this is the internet and you haven't mentioned products or people to promote.

So if you're telling the truth here is what I do and maybe you can find value in it to refine what you do: I've never been a fan of rigid canned routines. In the marines we use something called asymmetrical combat. I apply this mindset to everything from business to meeting and dating women. Basically, you want to have flexibility in your plans. The basic marine is free to do what he wants but under certain limitations or rules which guide him/her to completing the overall objective. All of the moving pieces work independently of one another, but towards the common end goal.

For instance. I have something in my back pocket for every situation under the sun where a woman will happen to enter into my reality. I was able to do this by breaking down situations into 3 categories. Under those umbrella categories are the different psychologies of women. 8 different psychologies. I then created a routine based around the idea of discovering which psychology the particular woman has. I laid out all of the steps in the male female mating dance, and tailored the dance to the 8 different women.

Finally, and this is how I am getting better, I fill each step with the most potent field proven skills the PU community has to offer. I am always refining the structure. but there is never an abc format to my conversations. My conversations naturally evolve with the individual woman I am talking to, but under the framework of the system. I am constantly finding faster, better, stronger ways of accomplishing the checkpoints in the system.

This of course was after I handled basic stuff like fitness, resources, and clothing.

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very long post for someone who has not been out once this year. PU obsessions does not help game. It alienates people from the public because of conspiracy theorist like behaviors. Society vs me. This does not bring people together. The lack of PU obsession has improved his game.

^blabber blah blah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD2hpgZORiw

Go do some cold approaches and get rejected or some flaky numbers. Or call up your boy to pull a coke head back for you. - Your words not mine.

I don't talk about theory I haven't used son. If the OP finds any value and wants to dig deeper great. If he doesn't that's fine also.

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It can be really hard to identify where you are falling short without someone who is on your side giving you feedback on what they see. Probably your best move would be to go Wing with someone who is better than you so they can help you figure out exactly where your interactions are going wrong.

This is a good idea. It's usually super easy for someone with experience to immediately point out several areas that need improvement. A lot of the time, it starts with the DEMEANOR the guy possesses when speaking with a woman.