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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:00 am 
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Hi there community. I'm new in this game and i'm trying to learn everything i need to become a pick up artist.
First let me give you my highlights. i'm 22. i have an outstanding look. i'm 6' 2'' i go to the gym my weight is 210 'lbs. of "pure muscle" i'm well educated, i am an engineer, i earn well above 90 % of the population of my city.
I should be very successful with women, truth is i'm kind of a workaholic, i work from 8 am to 8 pm and go to the gym from 9 pm to 11.30 pm monday to friday.
Curently i have 3 "girlfriends", truth is i don't try very hard to get women, i go out the whole weekend but always hoping to release some stress.
I just read the mystery method book and it's amazing this new world. I want to be part, i want to be able to get laid with every woman i want. I just have some problems, and i would want to hear some advice.
* I can´t apply the whole field practice because i just can't go out 4 nights a week. I am not willing to work less. My work is the thing that sustains my lifestyle
* I am very focused, so i don't date in the workplace, i don't date in the gym, i just date people i meet in the weekends :D
* I am a naturally unlikeable person, i have tried to change this but it seems like an impossible mission. I tend to neg girls, be cocky, funny. Girls generally like me, but guys generally hate me. I have tried to be gentle but it seems that nobody sees that, i chat to guys in the gym and they seem to not like me. According to the mystery method you should be the party's soul, i don't know how to achieve that. I don´t know if this is a curse but i'm not shy, as i said i'm always telling jokes, i neg girls, i'm not pushy. i think i'm good at nearly everything needed to enter the game except for my likeability factor.
I'd love to hear some advice from the masters.

Sincerely. Me


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:11 am 
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"Likeablity" isn't one thing. There's dozens of aspects that make us "likeable." I would advise you to spend some time picking apart your "likeablity" and break it down as far as you can. What are the weak and strong links in the chain? What is it that people don't see that would bring out your real ability to be "likeable"? What is it that you haven't developed enough that would make you more "likeable"?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:34 am 
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Hah, I met this guy that is very succesful with women, but has no guy friends. He tried befriending me and I hate the guy. So I'll tell you why I dont like him.
1) He's a jerk, he treats people like objects and possesions for his use and whenever. For example, a friendship is give and take, he just takes advantage of whatever he can, he seriously does not care about other people. He's a huge asshole.
2) He flirts with me. Seriously, I think he might be gay, but It could be just because he doesn't know how to sarge guys. At times, it seemed like he was flirting with me. (negging, and stuff like that) Guys bust eachother on stuff but its with a different tone, and only if they are good friends. I think his tone was on key for women, but he didn't know the right way to do it for guys. It was WEIRD!
Just stay away from negging guys.

Also, it's kind of hard to break into an established social circle. Everybody has their circle of friends, and practically the only easy way is to be new in the town, and people will be more receptive to inviting you to their social circle.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:49 am 
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man i agree with you, i also have met guys like this. Sincerely i am no one of them.
I have more than 10 close friends that i could call my BF. I love them as my brothers. the thing is that i am so focus that people need to interact with me in social situations to get to know me, in the workplace i WORK, in the gym i WORKOUT. So people think i'm cold or arrogant, which i'm truly not, i deeply agree with you, when i am new in town things are easier for me.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:30 am 
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Well I think it depends on what you want most. You say you're addicted to your work pretty much so this is obviously more important to you than women right now. Just go and give it your best shot whenever you do go out. I mean I only look for women when I go out to clubs, that's just the way my life is right now.


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There's many methods and ideas out there on the subject, so I'd say that if you don't fit into the Mystery Method model properly, then don't force yourself to, just find something that does work for you.

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I get the impression that body language may be a key issue here. When someone is as focused and intense as you seem to be Shore, often they will be very much in people's faces. Use the same talkative liveliness, but with a leaned back relaxed posture and I'll bet you won't make people so uncomfortable.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:20 am 
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hey

could it be that men are jealous about your earnings ?
cuz you mentioned you are only 21 and you have a top 10% income already, id say those men are jealous about it.
also you put a lot of effort in your job, which is good. but it does affect who you are right. for instance if i would be behind my computer all day long my social capabilities would decrease and people will notice in real life
id say cut some time of the gym, like one day a week to watch a funny movie witch some friends or maybe invite friends to watch football and make sure you can provide food (popcorn and such)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:30 pm 
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In my opinion you are too cocky for other men to like you. You think you are better than other people, and no one likes to be belittled. Yes you have accomplished a lot. But the reason why you think you are great is because you have someone in your life filling your head full of shit. The world is yours it is true, but don't let anyone know how selfish you are.

Friends are a two way streak. It's give and take man. Not take take take. If you don't want to sacrifice any of your selfish time... people can and will see what you’re all about. You have to sacrifice and be there for people when they need you... even and especially if it is not a convenient time for you.

You work a lot and you make good money. I'm sure you will get promotions and continue to grow, but people are what make life enjoyable. If you communicate at work you will find your work life is more enjoyable. You will also be networking which will extend the olive branch out for future opportunities which is something you need to think about.

You seem to lack the respect of the rest of the 90% of the population because how can they struggle when you have overcome so much? Someone is filling your head full of shit. You need to discover who that is and realize the person is not helping you socially. (It was my mom)

I don't know about gaming yet but I know about work place success and making friends.

never criticize condemn or complain.
Give honest and sincere appreciation. (Give it man, but don't be fake)
Arouse in People an eager want. (e.g. wouldn't it be cool if... we should do it together)
Smile!
Remember people’s names! Make it important it will pay off.

I hope this helps.

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I'm also unlikable, but for different reasons. My personality does not mesh well with, well, anyone. In real life there are, roughly, two people I would call actual friends. There are three more I'd call online friends.

Why?

Because I'm abrasive and elitist...and I like it. I don't want more friends. I don't want to know more people (anymore). I tried going down that path and realized that it just wasn't for me. Sure, there are benefits to it, like making contacts for the future or having someone to help you move, but there are also costs. You need to talk to countless numbers of boring idiots before you find anyone who is worth actually spending time with. Then you need to take time out of your day in order to spend time with them, and do all of the work holding the friendship together or you'll drift apart.

As for advice...I dunno. I decided I didn't want it, and that I'd just do what I wanted and let anyone who wants to get to know me come to me, and do all the work of befriending me.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:40 am 
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You want the advice isn't that why you are here. I am just being hard on you because thats the only way I know. I am spending my time trying to help you best I can. So man up, and get outside your box. You want to be stuck with girls who throw themselves on you, or do you want a catch?

People are not all that bad. The people you find boring joke with them. The unintelligent can have the most fun converstaions about nothing, just jokes. Being funny is a really good assest, and it can be learned just like anything else. Try a different style in talking with people, and let your ego go. You should watch some movies where the man's ego blinded him. Like underestimating his oppent. The paitriot is a good movie about Mel Gibson exploiting the weakness of the Bristish General. The weakness... his ego. Which is what a big ego is... a weakness.

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If you were talking to me...no, I'd rather stick with the women who throw themselves on me.

Occasionally they can have something interesting to say, but then you realize that they happened on it by chance, instead of by thinking, and nothing more worthy of thought is going to come out of their mouth. I mean, the level of inanity is just amazing...
The other day in restaurant bar there was a couple sitting next to me discussing family guy. The bartender joined in with the name of the person who wrote the theme song to king of the hill. Does anyone seriously find that interesting? Not to mention the bartender rattled off like 10 movies and 5 bands and kept using them to compare other events in..."oh, a girl won't leave you alone, fatal attraction!" *shudder*

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