I have been "unjustly" labeled a PUA. This is because I have 20 years experience in cold cock closing women in random situations and because I promulgate this knowledge via my global outfit Maaximum Seduction. We are well known but NOT mainstream like a few others and I am glad. I don't want anything to do with the mainstream PUA stigma because of certain practices that I have witnessed "first hand", at the hands of the fratboy entrenched PUA community which sees relationships like a "blow n go" special and prefers to receive such from half retarded, coked out, bar sluts that honestly I have seen average frustrated chumps or good looking guys pull with no "artificially inseminated game". To think that you go out and need tactics, lines or if a natural, waste your life chasing pussy for a one night shindig, in a toilet and you can look at yourself as real man of quality and prowess makes me laugh and cry. NONE of these faggots can close and long term earn connection from women. They can superficially attract woman for the CLUB NIGHT and or force themselves into sex. That is what pussy ass, rapists do. A real man earns bjs, sex, long term affection from women. A real man is also about benefiting himself, mastering the self, is well read, educated, socially intelligent, emotionally mature and has the savoir faire to assimilate into any crowd or cadre of society not just come easy trashy bars, clubs. What I am finding is most of these PUAs speak like Abercrombie and Fitch loving, dirt bag, fratboy, LA trust fund kids, that I would love to spank.

For this reason, I denounce the PUA community and PUAs altogether. They are self hating, insecure, childhood traumatized, social misfits who have to over compensate for daddy/mommy and woman issues by hating on others and treating themselves, lives and relationships in a very dispensable way. Not saying all, but many or most. I speak from years of experience as an observer. Once again, what I and my outfit teaches goes way beyond cold approach closing, pick up, seduction but relationship building, self mastery, social domain mastery, life mastery and to respect women, others and most of all yourself. I wish that these other outfits would be a bit more responsible as other men are putting their trust in them. It is fraud, diabolical and destructive to cheat men into thinking that self mastery is simply to force women into sex, manipulate others, use tricks, only pick up bar trash when that is what you should have been doing at the age of 17. Man up


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Even though I think that the tone of your post is a bit more agressive then it needs to be (you will not reach an audience by antagonizing it), when it comes to the core message you have I agree 100%.

These days idiots like Julien Blanc are all over the media, giving the entire PU-community a bad name and frankly I'm surprised that this didn't happen already a long time ago. Especially when RSD is concerned. They seemingly run the biggest and most prominent PU-coaching buisness around and they've done so for years. And they make my toenails curl up for years as well. Bunch of sad loosers that hyped themselves into believing they are some kind of Ubermensch... But RSD only stands for a huge group of guys that have turned the subtle art of seduction into a sick perversion that believes that by learning how to push button A you will get result B, ignoring that women, people in general are individuals with feelings, brains, personal histories. That give love a bad name, declaring it a sickness called Oneitis, promoting the belief that women are exchangeable. All that is deeply immature I find.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against a man wanting to sleep with as many women as he can. That doesn't make him an asshole. Just like sleeping with many guys doesn't automatically make a woman a slut! The difference between a gentleman and an asshole, or a between a lady and a slut is not how many people they have sex with, but how they TREAT these people.

Respect is indeed the key word here. Respect for your fellow human beings and for yourself.
A true seducer, a true man will follow his heart, not his dick and in the years since I became a part of this community I had to find that there is way too little heart in pickup.

I was a hopeless romantic before I discovered this community and that didn't change a bit. And I assure everyone who reads this that this is why I am good with women and why women are good with me.

Peace and love!

Then delete your website signature link since you wouldn't want your audience to be evil PUA's

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I kind of agree with your message... That being said, consider the following: 90% of guys who start with PUA are likely to never make it. They will get disappointed with their lack of immediate results and quit, or they will endlessly linger around the most "basic" stages of PUA. And those are the guys who you are talking about. Those guys have been carrying their sexual frustration for years, might not be the brightest lights on the sky and just want immediate results to get laid. And sure, it might even work for some of them, but they are not likely to ever be truly impressive or memorable. I think that most veterans in this game, specially the ones that are helping others for altruistic motives and not for profit, have always had or have built some truly amazing personalities. They have understood the importance of long time improvement and have worked hard for years. They might be looking for one night stands or relationships, it doesn't matter. Their attitude is still genuine and they do not see their relationship with women as "them tricking the women into anything", but as what it truly is, a mutual exchange. And, quite frankly, I do not think you can hate any of those guys for the reasons you mentioned. The rest is just noobs and shitheads. They want to be PUAs but they have no game. The pick up community, like any other mass movement, is prone to attract a fair share of them. But they are not the core of it. They do not truly shape it.

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to be honest i agree but i kinda disagree, pick up is just a way up picking up girls, and pick up artist just like any other type of artist have different styles. the PUA's you're talking about are like the new mainstream type of art, that nobody understands, caused by inner pain, and alot of people want to emulate because they make it seem easy. where as a PUA like you are the old school style, classy, hard to copy, take years to master, and have a certain elegance to it....yeah you're right the new style does have a rapist vibe and thats why i usually ignore it, but don't make you hate who you are, if you can get almost any girl you want and if anybody witness it and is in awe then you are a pick up artist, be proud of your work and don't let these mainstream idiots stop you from using the title

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

You'll have to delete all of your "Live PUA Training" links from your web site.

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He has inverted the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

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Looks like Mode One and RSD now have some company for advice on getting women WAY below your own looks level.

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Typical mystery necklace - true pua to the core

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This guy's posted some reasonably good content and got little to no response. The moment he starts trolling, everyone's there.

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If something's not fun, it's not worth doing

Get over yourself.

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These hos ain't loyal

exactly

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

That site looks exactly like a "PUA" website. In fact, and old MM website. Just saying, I thought I'd see a more well rounded male improvement website and was surprised. This is just a sales pitch.

+1

Pick up blogs are saturated. There is way too much competition. So people are trying to differentiate by regurgitating pick up and putting some bizarre twist and call themselves a life coach or something...

In fact, they are just trying to infiltrate the pick up scene and it is transparent otherwise they would market themselves away from pick up forums and such. But they need it if they want to get paid.

I can guarantee this guy has best friends that he met from the PUA scene.

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I HATE THE PUA SCENE BUT CHECK OUT MY WEBSITE IN MY SIGNATURE ! WE'LL FIND YOU A LONG TERM GIRLFRIEND HONEST !

OOOH LOOK AT THE 2 CHICKS I'M WITH IN MY PIC ALSO ! HOLY SHIT THEY ARE DAMN FINE LADIES !

get out of here with your bullshit post.

also to the guy who said he's posted alot of good stuff. DUDE alot of guys on here post shit loads of good material and advice but get no recognition so this guy has to get over himself and if he genuinely doesnt want to do PUA then shut all his shit down.

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Dude you do not sound very happy and secure.

Why do you care about what people call you?

Unless you used PUA term no one would know what you are talking about. The whole concept about not liking a term is because others have given it a bad name.

So.

What I mean is if people laughed at your real name, would you change it. By this I mean would you allow others to dictate how you feel about yourself.

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