The only real "routine" I follow is I walk in, pay the cover, stop a couple of more steps in, take a quick glance (not a sweeping, obvious head moving and turning one), fine a couple of interesting looking sets, then start walking to where I choose to go.

Some nights I'll walk further into the venue, some nights I'll immediately open something that looks interesting. I don't have a set routine for the entire club. Each night is different because the people are different, the overall attitude is different, etc. But I do walk in the same way each night. And, the confidence shows throughout the time that I'm there. And, that's the key.

I went on a trip with student org, down to Valdosta GA, this weekend. For a while I sat next to this girl (HB7, I suppose) as we were watching a movie. I made a few jokes a little bit of negging etc. Anyway, I was getting some IOIs but I was so scared to try and k-close. Seriously, that is a BIG step and I did not know what to do. She seemed into me, but I did not want to break all of our rapport w/ a rejected k-close. I no longer fear rejection in the approach but kissing is uncharted waters for me. I sure appreciate the help.

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And yeah, This is (still) just the beginning.

I understand your point, but you must realize that if the rapport is going good and the switches have been flipped, she will actually feel like rapport is broken if you DON'T kiss or number close.

At the point of the kiss close, when you're deciding whether you should go for it or not, she is at that same time, in her mind, considering whether you will be another friend or a lover. Which way you go depends partially on whether you have the guts to kiss her. If you don't have the guts to kiss her, you won't have the guts to please her sexually either.

You can just move your hands up to cup her face, pull her lips to yours and kiss, or you can use Mystery's kiss close. But, which ever way you go with it, you have to pull the trigger. It's much like pulling the trigger on your AA. Only, you already have the vibe going, so KEEP it going by kissing her.

So I'll keep this short as possible:

1. I've known this HB8.5 for 3 years, but have only talked to her probably 8 times in those 3 years

2. Every time she breaks up with a boyfriend she i.m.'s me, but stops i.m'ing me when she gets a new boyfriend

3. She just broke up with her bf, and she initiates the instant message, and I asked her out to pizza, and she said yes

4. We sat there for 2 hours talking, making her laugh, giving the occasional neg/dhv, but no kino at all, (i suck at kino)

5. When we exit, she stands around for another 10 minutes talking to me, and since i'm new at the game, I think this meant that she wanted to do something else, but I didn't realize until i said bye.

So basically do I still have a chance with this girl? If I do, what are my steps to get into a LTR?

Yes, she definitely wanted more, in THAT moment anyway. You may suck at kino, but it's a requirement. In fact, if you want to have ANY chance with this girl, it's theone thing you MUST do the very next time you see her.

Here's the thing. If you want her, you have to flip her attraction switches. You have to invite her into your world, show her a fun time while she's there, and flip her attraction swtiches while she's there. Leave yourself imprinted on her mind. Then, you HAVE to take things to the next physical level. Otherwise you will always remain right where you are . . . in LJBF land.

And, welcome to the forum PUAwannabe.

Thanks for all the responses Tripp. Quick question. There is this girl that I'm attracted to. she is probably a 6 or 7. The only time I see her is when she is working out, normally running on the tread mill. I thought the best thing to do would be to just run on the tread mill next to her and just start a conversation but I dont know what conversation to start with someone who is really into their workout. Just an explanation on how to handle sarging this girl would be nice.

Thanks

You could do that, or you could go up to her machine and adjust her controls real quick, like change her speed, then look at her and give her a confident smile. Watch her face light up.

sounds fun. but is there a special way to approcing girls at the gym because it is different.

How much eye contact is too much?
Because it always seems like I'm conveying too much interest

Just the way I said. They're there to work out, sure, but if you're a guy that catches their attention in an interesting and fun way, you're still gold.

Welcome to the forum, first of all.

Now, yes the eye contact shows interest, but more importantly it shows CONFIDENCE. When you are the first one to break eye contact, she knows she just intimidated you, and that's never good. If the eye contact lingers for more than a few seconds, crack a smile. Most likely she will crack one too. Possibly even get embarrassed, depending on the girl.

For instance, I was out shopping tonight, saw an attractive older woman in the grocery store, our eyes met, the EC lingered, I cracked a smile, so did she. EC broke, I went up the aisle, she followed, lol. I won't write a FR here, but you get the idea. Sure, you don't want to creep the girl out, but if the EC lingers, just crack a smile. Don't worry about showing interest, remember that you are showing confidence, which is VITAL.

I dont know what i did wrong with this set, so i was seeing if you could help.

Ok, I dont know what i did wrong on this one but i need some help.

Ok, the other night i go out to the bars. I open up this 4 set by dancing with my target right. After the song introduce myself and start a opener i came up with. After that I stacked again to some more material. It was a cologne opener I came up with.
Then I say
Me:"Introduce me to your friends thats the polite thing to do".

She does and after she introduces me I start to ignore her and start talking to her friends right. Then after talking to her friends and finding out how they know each other my target jumps on my back. She is trying to get attention from me. So I figure everything is going well. We start to dance again after I introduce my wing who was no help. He said two words then stood there silent. Anyway while were dancing my target decides to start graping my dick right. I immediatly say whoa slow down i'm not that easy, then walk away. I go to the rest room then come back and start talking to her again and I see her rubbing/picking her nose. So I say dont do that, thats nasty. After saying that I start to try and qualify her. I didnt isolate her so that was probably one mistake. After I told her the beauty is very common line, she says ok then turns her back on me and shuts me out the group.

Im so confuse on this one because one second she was all over my dick then the next she hates me. I dont know if it was when i walked away showing a IOD or when I tryied to qualify her without isolating.

You want to pursue the girl after she was picking her nose? lol.

From what you are saying you pushed alot but didn't pull much. You should have shown more IOI's to her. IOI's first, then teased her more.

Sorry if this is long, and if it seems a little scatter brained, but i like your advice and i wanted to know your take on my situation...
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Theres this girl that i work with & it seems like we have a some attraction to each other. I've neged her a little, and do the whole cocky/funny thing with her and i can tell she likes it, we even hug eachother sometimes when we first see each other. Shes a busy girl so i dont know how i should go about
trying to get her to go out somewhere with me. also i dont see her for
weeks at a time. I know her sister, and am on her myspace so about a month ago i sent a random joke message to the girl and i

noticed that she read the message but never responded. I figured that i can try to go further on with her on myspace then hoping to see her in weeks.

so the next time i saw her i pretended as if i never sent the message in the first place. Anyways, after weeks of things not

really going anywhere i kind of gave up on her and one day i saw her and kind of ignored her... a few days later she added me

on myspace as a friend. We have been in communication since but i noticed that sometimes she will take 2-3 days to reply to a
message. What are your thoughts on this situation and any advice on what i should do next?

Hey Tripp

When in set and my mind goes blank for a few seconds (this even happens when I speak to friends), I usually eject from set so that I dont look like a weirdo and hope to give it a go again later. Is it ok if the set is going well to stay in silence after a FTC?