Finally opening up to the bar scene.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:01 pm 
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I've gone out a couple times this week, the first with a sorta friend that talks a big game, I knew he wasn't very good out though from a previous experience I had with him. We walked around the venue an absorbed the SPAM. I practiced my alpha body language an was able to move through the crowd with ease. He on the other hand who is the same size as me was being pushed around like a rag doll. After only a few seconds of that he started following me around like a lost puppy. I made no approaches on this night. My anxiety of being in such a crowd over whelmed me but I still feel as if I made a dramatic improvement controlling my body language despite my inner turmoil.

The second time I went alone an unmotivated. I talked myself into going. I went in walked around for a couple minutes. Locked eyes with this cute collage girl around the pool table surrounded by guys. I smirked an she smiled. At this point I should of moved in but instead walked out. Double omega ultra fail here. Embarrassing to say the least.

This last time I went out I took a semi attractive girl friend with me I gamed a wile back during the day. I felt super confident this nite. We walked around side by side danced a bit an tried opening non verbally some girls on the floor wich didn't work but proud I tried. I tried the forced ioi technique a few times an got a couple good responses. Walking around again wile my pivot went to the restroom I got pulled aside by a not so attractive female. I took the opportunity to try an make small talk an improve bar banter skills but not even a few seconds into the conversation she asked if I wanted to make out which i declined. It dropped from there an I was off. Before we were about to leave I spotted a girl I forced a distant ioi to earlier but didn't approach since she was dancing with a guy. She was at the bar an I went up an did the friendly shoulder touch gambler showed. She seen me an hr body language opened up almost completely. Big smile turned all the way towards me leaning in solid eye contact. Looked like a begging puppy. I told her I seen her earlier an just wanted to say high. Had my back leaning against the bar all relaxed. I attempted to talk to her an she was into it no doubt. But with a min gone by I've come to realize I have no idea what to say next... Damn should of packed some actual material instead of just this body language stuff. I excused myself to go back to my friend an I could see she was a bit disappointed. My pivot then asked if I got her number. Double damn! But this still makes me happy that I'm making gradual improvement over time. Soon the bar scene will be mine. I'm going out alone this Thursday to a popular collage bar. With some actual talking material I may add. Wish me luck.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:34 am 
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Congrats, I can relate to that. i go out one or twice a week with my buddies and we came to own the club scene, also following richard's forcing ioi's and eventually we got good at it. actually i did because my friend was too shy. so i have number closed and kiss closed girls within minutes. but like u i recently have started to go out just to the bar to talk to girls at the bar and i have walked away just like you even though girls already like me but not able to move it forward.. but lately i been pushing it to the point where i crash n burn. where i want to kiss her and she rejects me, where she walks away, where her friends pull her, but I'm building micro momentum i feel like I'm starting to deal with shit test better and turning around some hoops. and maintaing the girls for a longer time.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:47 am 
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I think part of it is that you're trying to mix natural game with canned material. Let's go over a few things:

1. If you're on a dance floor, Kino Open (Gambler explains this well). They don't want to talk if they're dancing.

2. Ran out of stuff to say? How old are you? You've been living for at least 18 years (I'm assuming you're an adult) and you have nothing to say? BS. It also doesn't matter what you say.

Yep, that's about it for now. Also try day game. Good Luck!

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