Many guys are or go through a phase of being creepy when they start practicing PUA.

Please list advice or behaviours to avoid if you don't want to give girls the willies.

I'll start:

Don't look at girls without smiling or acknowledging they are looking back. If you are too shy to approach, don't keep staring. It will freak her out and destroy any chane of her coming into proximity later in the night.

Don't keep talking to someone who doesn't show interest in talking to you. This is not the same as the girl being nervous, learn to tell the difference.

Don't stay in proximity to someone with you body angled at them but not engage them.

Don't talk about them to people who know them if you don't comfortably talk to them themselves.




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Don't be too invested in them for the level of contact you've had with them. That's about it.

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How does that translate into specific, practical advice for guy who don't understand what that means?

Don't look where you touch when you go kino.

That's a very good tip. As I got more comfortable touching this is a shift I noticed happened naturally. Now I look just to see where their leg is, look up, then touch. It's not a big deal so I don't even pay attention to it myself.

Eye contact like a mother f&*$er.

A good while back I watched a video and I can't remember who it was by, but it was basically a challenge. Try to over do eye contact. Keep up a good conversation, kino, everything as normal, but try to use so much eye contact that it creeps her out. I tried it and found that you just can't do it, unless you use a really creepy face while doing it or something.

As another example, try talking to a girl while looking all around. The creep factor jumps sky high.

Is there any chance of recovery once you creeped the hell out of a HB.

Sometimes i just creep the hell out of a chic to the point that it is embarrising but then after i approach and get rejected i act like i dont give a fuck, Sometimes not always but sometimes she comes back with like an excuse or something and 4 out of 10 I can F-close them.

Don't lean in and wait for her response or laugh in embaressment if she's not laughing.
Your laugh MUST be earned.

This is gonna start are war but fuck it. Stop the 45 degree bullshit. Have a normal conversation I mean seriously. You just creep the hell out of girls

Great post and all true. It can also to work to simply maintain the initial eye contact with no overt signaling of anything to the woman. You then decide to reward her attention by opening her and she's into it. It's like an early push pull to not "jump at the chance" to overtly acknowledge the woman's initial eye contact attention. Ideally you want the girl to look away first. This is chalked up to dominance and some other primal hardwired shit.

be confident with everything you say, even if your joke is corny AF if you say it with confidence 9/10 she'll laugh (im one corny MFer, girls always tell me my lines make me sound like a black james bond they still love me lmao)

also smile, your smile is your cheat, you use it to get out of every situation that goes bad, say something offensive smile an it turns into a cute neg, smiling has gotten me out of so much trouble

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100%. To avoid creeper status just be smooth. The content of what is said is nothing in comparison with the manner it is said in.
hell yeah dude. On a similar note, I was speaking with a girl, just fucking around with her by talking about something that I would think would be the opposite of what a normal girl would think is a "smooth" topic.

I was joking around (but not talking in a joking manner) and saying "I'm going to go and be a hostess at a restaurant, they'll try to make me act all feminine and shit."

This is quite possibly the worst thing you could ever say if you were trying to "DHV" yourself as an "alpha male".

Didn't matter.

Why?

Simple:

I was behaving in a confident manner, speaking with her in the way I would speak with a girl I have just had sex with.

Her reply to this asinine banter I was spilling to her was a graphic question wondering about techniques I perform with girls while having sex.

Enough said.

It's not what you say, but how you say it.

- Don't approach from behind or grab her from behind.

- Learn to take no for an answer. There's persistence, then there's psychotic persistence (which is creepy).

Agreed. Stop worrying about being creepy. I do creepy things all the time and it hasn't stopped me getting laid.

In general you should err on the side of being creepy versus being too passive; however, if you are getting a lot of indicators that you are being too creepy, there are generally two causes:

(1) You are being inappropriately touchy too early in the interaction
(2) You aren't attracting the girl enough

(2) is the big one...most of the time, the difference between creepy behavior and attractive behavior is whether or not the girl likes you.

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