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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:57 pm 
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Ok this is a strange one, will go from the start.
Basically, I work in a kind of factory place, where there are 3 assistant managers and one manager. I'm an assistant, but I don't get on with the assistant manager (who is also very close friends with the manager).

So one day, the other assis. manager recommended a girl to the manager to start working. She was really hot, but quickly realised she really liked me. She was checking my ass out all the time, was always asking other staff questions about me, said that songs which came on were reminding her of me, etc,etc. I mean it was really obvious - even though she kept it secret from me, I could tell because I have scarily good hearing and could hear other staff members talking. However, I have usually always keep my distance from the staff so I kept her at arms length for a while, was acting a bit like the guy who doesn't give a shit, could have any girl I want, didn't go out of my way to talk to her, didn't have a facebook to add, etc. I think this drove her insane, eventually it was putting her off, so then I got more friendly with her again.

Past couple of weeks, stepped it up a bit she was still very interested, she was only working part-time now because of college, but I always made sure I was near her at the end of the night, helping her out. The other assistant manager slowly realized we were probably both into each other, so don't think she was happy. This girl just recently phoned in sick for the 3rd time in about 2 months so the assistant manager and manager decided to just end her contract and used that as an excuse. And they would tell her she was sacked if she phoned or when she turned up for her next shift. I had taken annual leave, so basically, I'll never see her at work again. I had never got to the stage of getting her number or anything.

Anyway, I then got in contact with an ex-colleague who had her on facebook, and said give her my phone number, she has to call me, its very important and it was about her job. Anyway, within 5 mins of him saying he would pass my number, she phoned me 5 mins later while she was in college. Quick convo, explained the situation, and said she had to phone the manager. At the end I just said I would possibly never see her again, good luck, phone me anytime if you want to talk about anything,etc,etc. At this point, could hear her say "thanks for everything" and her voice was cracking a bit, then she quickly said "thanks,bye". So not sure that convo went that great as it might have upset her.
I then waited like 6 hours, said had she phoned the manager. Again , she was texting me back within minutes, then last few messages were:
Me: i'll phone you later just let me know when you're home and free to talk
her: I won't be free tonight but tomorrow am free
Me:Ok cool
her: Thank ya

So what now? I want to phone again, but not sure exactly what to say, what I shouldn't say.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:56 pm 
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Tell her that you were interested in seeing her but when you worked together it was a conflict of interest. "I always wanted to chill w/ u but thought it might be weird b/c we were working together" or something like that. Ask her out.


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Thanks man. Should I go deeper and try to include other stuff, like the managers were trying to play mind games, keep us apart,etc. Or keep that for when we meet up?
Also, I'm going on holiday on Monday for 1 week, won't be able to meet with her until 2 weeks from now. How does that affect what I should say? Or it doesn't make any difference?

Also, I just texted her asking if she's free to talk. No reply after an hour. She's quite a confident girl, but she did say she doesn't like confronting things, so maybe she's nervous or something.

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She texted back
Her: I just got out of the gym will it be long?
Me: its ok I'll phone later if you want
(she phones at this point and I missed the call)
her: will it be a long conversation
me: depends. I'll try and talk fast though
her: is it bad?
me: No its not bad
her: Okay we'll am free just now, is just now an okay time

Phoned and kinda choked. We just talked for a bit, mentioned holiday, what she's going to do for her next job, etc. She was giggly and chatty though. Didn't ask her out yet. She said she's going to let me know on Monday when she talks to the manager about her job. Is this a good opportunity even by text?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:08 pm 
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Lol your description sounded pretty emotional. At least to me. I mean for some strange reason I felt like it was some love story or something. Just got that impression.

Anyway, whatever it is, you gotta be careful with taking it too seriously. I don't know if you are, but i'm just getting that impression. Because at the end of the day, nothings happened before. In the past when I was much younger, i'd get really caught up with the fact that I KNEW a girl liked me. But until you actually connect and escalate the whole thing to a point where neither of you can deny that there is something going on, you arent really in a good position.

Sometimes you feel stronger about the interaction than whats actually happened. So I'd take it easy with all the texting and phoning and calling and what not. Just be cool, be busy, do your own thing. But make a date with her. Doesnt have to be fancy, and doesnt have to be under the context of a proper date. Depends on the scenario. You could ask her out on a date date if you wanted. I'd personally go with just ask her out and go do something. "hey theres this thing wanna go?"

And escalate things.

And check back here when you get to that point or something.

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Lol your description sounded pretty emotional. At least to me. I mean for some strange reason I felt like it was some love story or something. Just got that impression.

Anyway, whatever it is, you gotta be careful with taking it too seriously. I don't know if you are, but i'm just getting that impression. Because at the end of the day, nothings happened before. In the past when I was much younger, i'd get really caught up with the fact that I KNEW a girl liked me. But until you actually connect and escalate the whole thing to a point where neither of you can deny that there is something going on, you arent really in a good position.

Sometimes you feel stronger about the interaction than whats actually happened. So I'd take it easy with all the texting and phoning and calling and what not. Just be cool, be busy, do your own thing. But make a date with her. Doesnt have to be fancy, and doesnt have to be under the context of a proper date. Depends on the scenario. You could ask her out on a date date if you wanted. I'd personally go with just ask her out and go do something. "hey theres this thing wanna go?"

And escalate things.

And check back here when you get to that point or something.
Thanks for the advice man. Yeah, basically I'm sounding emotional at the start because of the situation at my job and felt I need to explain the whole thing. Arguments between managers, so I had to act kinda uninterested in her. Then, I kinda panicked because she was getting sacked and I would potentially never see her again, so ok, will try and relax it a bit.

She's going to text me on Monday about whether her contract at the factory got terminated. How should I respond to that, and good idea to try and make a date which is almost 2 weeks away? Or just get her to confirm we should meet up some time?

EDIT:Just second thought - since she's going to text me Monday, but I'm catching a flight on Monday afternoon and going on holiday for 1 week. Should I just not respond to the text? Or just reply with something short/funny? and then get agreement on the date after I come back?


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Can you text her on holiday ? Firstly defjnately reply to her before u leave.

But after that, there are two ways.

Don't text her anymore for the week or 2 you're away. Come back. Tell her that your back and let's go do something.

Or

Text her through the holiday. But now ur going to have to
Play some text game. It's not complicated though and it shouldn't be. Just keeping in touch and being seently stimulative. Not too often too. Just a couple of texts a day.

How do you decide ?

It depends on how long your going away, what the status is btw u and her at the moment and what your strengths are.

If I haven't had any connection with a girl, and I'm going away for not too long a time (say a week or two). I much prefer not texting through the holiday and only when I get back. That's because my live game is damn strong and I escalate very fast and impactful when we do meet. All I need is to get that one "date" or outing. Texting and all that isn't great for me because my live game is so much stronger.

If you already have a connection with her. Than I would text her through. You can build so much comfort and strengthen your connection over the phone (not sure if you're familiar with the standard pick up model).

If you're going for a really long time, you're probably best off doing a mix. Texting to stimulate her, and possibly start building or strengthening a connection, but not too often and not too deep. Because if you are gone for a long time you might not be able to get that "date" when you come back. This is probably the best solution for you.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:00 pm 
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Can you text her on holiday ? Firstly defjnately reply to her before u leave.

But after that, there are two ways.

Don't text her anymore for the week or 2 you're away. Come back. Tell her that your back and let's go do something.

Or

Text her through the holiday. But now ur going to have to
Play some text game. It's not complicated though and it shouldn't be. Just keeping in touch and being seently stimulative. Not too often too. Just a couple of texts a day.

How do you decide ?


It depends on how long your going away, what the status is btw u and her at the moment and what your strengths are.

If I haven't had any connection with a girl, and I'm going away for not too long a time (say a week or two). I much prefer not texting through the holiday and only when I get back. That's because my live game is damn strong and I escalate very fast and impactful when we do meet. All I need is to get that one "date" or outing. Texting and all that isn't great for me because my live game is so much stronger.

If you already have a connection with her. Than I would text her through. You can build so much comfort and strengthen your connection over the phone (not sure if you're familiar with the standard pick up model).

If you're going for a really long time, you're probably best off doing a mix. Texting to stimulate her, and possibly start building or strengthening a connection, but not too often and not too deep. Because if you are gone for a long time you might not be able to get that "date" when you come back. This is probably the best solution for you.
What should I reply with before I leave?
And I'm away for 1 week, but was thinking of only texting when I get back. But she did say she used to stay in Dubai all the time when she was younger. Maybe text her few times asking for advice about places to visits, which bars, etc?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:57 am 
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Yeah sounds good. Doesn't matter what u say before u leave cause ur gonna text her in Dubai anyway. Gd luck

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She started texting me again about her job again, tried not to text too much, but she kept asking me stuff.
Should I try and escalate at this point, tease her or anything? Was thinking I might start joking about which clubs should I go to in Dubai to bag some rich arab princess :lol:


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Yeah sure talk to her. Teasing isn't escalating. U should always be teasing and funny and fun. Go ahead with that. Sounds good man. Just vibe w her n when I get back set a date n then escalate

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That joke about the rich arab girls may have pissed her off. Was texting back and forth before boarding the plane. Then said that joke, she stopped replying. Then I just said, "joke, I'm not like that anymore, I'm going to behave myself."
Her reply was "Yeah right, you can't behave yourself on holiday haha".
My reply: "Nah I've changed now I'm a good boy."
No reply to this and texted her while on holiday to see if she thought it was worth going to Atlantis (I was in Dubai).
I didn't get any reply to this (but on second thoughts it may be in case she didn't want to send an international text).
Now almost a week later she's replied to ask
"Do you know when we get paid?"
I'm ignoring it for now. How should I play this?


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She likes you. I've been in many situations like this. You come across a bit cocky n player like, and she call you out in a way that just makes you feel like you wanna tell her ur not and how u changed.

My advice is don't back track too much. Don't have to make excuses for being confident and being popular with women. What you do need to do is capitalize on her attraction and bind with her. So talk about deeper stuff over the phone sometime. And let her "win you over" so you change later.

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