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 Post subject: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:19 pm 
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Hello everyone I am new to this site and am in desperate need of some help. Let me explain my situation and all comments/pointers/tips/answers are welcome. It may be a bit long as I really want everyone to understand so please bear with me.

I had first met Steph on New Year's eve through a mutual friend. We went to the liquor store because at the time my friend and steph were underage, she is one year younger than me. They came back later that night to an event me and my friends were at. I got Steph's number that day. They left and I didn't see her again until my friend arranged a hotel party a week later.

*Side note: She had a boyfriend at the time who was at a strip club"

At the hotel party we began to click we were sitting on the bed just talking to each other, almost gazing into each other's eyes. Later that night she started crying to me about her boyfriend so I comforted her. We were both drunk. That was all.

After that I never saw her until almost a year later at a bar with our same mutual friend. As soon as I sat down she touched my leg and said "I promise I won't cry again". I got us a couple shots and that was all. (She is still with her bf at this point)

I saw her on and off again a couple of times since then.

More recently, I offered her to use my house for the Ice Bucket challenge. She did and then told me she's taking off her clothes because she was cold. She did so in front of me and then asked for a towel. I then drove her home and she commented that she loves that I know where her house is.

After some texting of her telling me that her boyfriend had been looking for other girls and what not she texted me saying "Haha I'm officialy single" so I quickly jumped at the opportunity I had been waiting for and asked her if she wanted to grab food this weekend. She agreed to go with me.

So this past weekend we went out and I felt that it went well, she looked great and it seemed to me that we were flirting, she grabbed my hand once, good eye contact was made and she laughed a lot her feet and legs were pointed towards me on the way there and I thought it went well. She even said when we were going to the restaurant "we'll do sushi next time". So I took it as a good sign. The only regret I had was I never made a move at the end of the night, I just hugged her as usual.

There is a huge reason as to why I didn't make the move: I'M AFRAID.

Some reasons why are:

- I never officially called it a date although it felt like one so I was worried she might have thought we were friends and that's it. (Even though as soon as she told me she was single I said, "OK we're going for food this weekend")

- I was worried she would reject me and break my heart. (I know I sound like a loser but I'm just letting you know)


Anyways, the day after we went out I sent her a text, here is how the convo went (please analyze for me)

Me: Hope you had fun last night!

Steph: I did thanks :)

Me: We have to go for sushi for next time I want to try that Tapinaki

Steph: Aha ok :) :) sounds good to me lolll

Me: We won't trust the GPS next time though lol

Steph: Lol I know right AHAHHAHAHA

Basically in this convo I am still worried if she sees this as a friendly outing and also the "lolll" is irritating me I don't know why. Also after that last text from her I just stopped responding, I heard it was a good technique.

Now! Last night at around 11pm I texted her. Here is how it went it's brutal.

Me: So what sort of trouble did you cause today?

Steph: Haha none at all I worked 8 hours ahah you?

Me: Work for me today too, pretty long day. So you must have had a lot of tea then? :P (She works at a tea shop)

Steph: Awh nice any progress,? And lol actually no :$ lots of water though

Me: It's looking like it, big meeting tomorrow with Canon Canada, are you working tomorrow too?

Steph: That's awesome and no I'm off tomorrow

Me: Finally a break lol nice

Me again: I find work takes so much longer since I quit smoking lol

and...no response. I feel like I fckd up big time, maybe lost her interest, talking about myself too much? I really don't know. 30 minutes later she sends me a snapchat of her and one of her friends (a girl) watching a movie in the dark at her friends house. She sent this random video to me but didn't even respond to my text I don't get it.

If you have made it this far thank you so much this is very important to me. So the reason I came here is I want to find out a couple of things.

1. What do you guys honestly think from what I told you about her feelings towards me?

2. I need some serious help in texting like I have seen everything on the internet about a hook, making a connection and teasing her sexually, but I have know her for some time so I need a different approach I literally need step by step examples of what I should text this girl to make her actually enjoy it and look forward to when we go out again and more importantly give her the idea that it is more of a date and less two friends, if that is even what she is thinking I honestly have no idea.

Please help me I want to set something up for this weekend but i want her to understand that its a date without screwing myself over by being too forward if that makes any sense. Also just so everyone knows I'm 21 and she's 20. I believe I am in love with her.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:38 am 
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First text conversation is good. Showing confidence, humor and leading.
Second text conversation…when she told you she was off, in her mind (women language)
If you were really interested you would have asked her out. Then she shows you how
Bored she is at her friends house.
In first text you set the stage for a second text, in second text you didn’t close.

Try and text her and set up a date


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:26 am 
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Bro she is going to really think you are not interested if you don't make a sexual move. When you see her again If you are afraid or feel awkward about kissing her or saying some romantic shit then don't.

but don't stop advancing on you building sexual tension, don't hesitate and don't back off, you are going to make her feel weird as shit if you don't make a move.

If she starts making sexual advances just blatantly like you describe just grab her like a MAN, Grab her ass while hugging, make her sit on your lap when talking, stare at her tits or something while saying how fucking nice they look.

Danm bro you said she got all her clothes off in front of you in your house, What bigger clue or hints do you want??? Do you think she is going to trip or fall and somehow land on your dick???

Please don't get offended by my response, You need to loose that fear, Plus I highly doubt that she will reject you if you make a quick and decisive move.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:51 pm 
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You have received so many"I want to be fucked" signals I lost coumt.

Don't be afraid of success.

Take her out, a little wining and dining, you are IN, get with it!

Just saying, if you don't nail her, someone else will.

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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:51 pm 
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You have received so many"I want to be fucked" signals I lost coumt.

Don't be afraid of success.

Take her out, a little wining and dining, you are IN, get with it!

Just saying, if you don't nail her, someone else will.

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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:28 pm 
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thanks everyone I guess I just need to make a move but I'm worried that she might think of me as a friend so I don't wanna have an issue here


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:40 pm 
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I responded to your other thread about this same girl as well.

Make a move or you're toast. Your window is closing.

The texting is also really long-winded.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:43 pm 
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thanks everyone I guess I just need to make a move but I'm worried that she might think of me as a friend so I don't wanna have an issue here
Dude, she's hitting on you more than you're hitting on her. There is nothing "friendly" about this. The only way you get friend zoned is if you do it to yourself. Act before she loses interest. You don't "have to" try to fuck her on the next date, but you are insane if you don't go for a short make out session.

BTW, you didn't ask for this advice and it seems obvious but I'll mention it. Don't EVER bring up her ex bf. Period. If she starts talking about him change the topic. You aren't there to comfort. You are there to show her a good time and build interest.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:58 pm 
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and more importantly give her the idea that it is more of a date and less two friends, if that is even what she is thinking I honestly have no idea.

Please help me I want to set something up for this weekend but i want her to understand that its a date without screwing myself over by being too forward if that makes any sense. Also just so everyone knows I'm 21 and she's 20. I believe I am in love with her.
Dude, she and most girls are alot more socially aware than guys. She understands you are into her. You just need to be more physical. Don't worry about being too aggressive. This girl took off her clothes in front of you. You think she's going to freak out if you wrap your arm around her and kiss her? Think about it. And do not wait for the end of the night to kiss her.

As for texting, build interest, flirt, but don't banter on forever.

something like " Hey I'm free Tuesday and want to go to blank sushi place. You should tag along."

When she says yes, respond with "cool, be sure to wear something cute ;) "

It's being flirtatious and ballsy. If she is interested in you at all she'll love it.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:07 pm 
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That's a good idea I like the wear something cute line and when she took her clothes off at first I thought it was a good sign. One of my friends told me that she may just think of me as a good friend and not care to take her clothes off because she thinks I'm not interested I really don't know it's so stressful. I don't want to make a move without being sure...


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:26 pm 
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That's a good idea I like the wear something cute line and when she took her clothes off at first I thought it was a good sign. One of my friends told me that she may just think of me as a good friend and not care to take her clothes off because she thinks I'm not interested I really don't know it's so stressful. I don't want to make a move without being sure...
It sounds like you're never going to be sure without making a move.

Think about it. You said she grabbed your hand during the last date. If you were outside of this scenario and I told you that I took a girl out to dinner and that she dressed up cute, she was laughing and playful the whole time and that she was grabbing my hand to hold my hand would you tell me "hmm, that's a tough one..." Or would you say "she's obviously into you".

No offense dude but if you are presenting things accurately here it is PAINFULLY obvious that she's into you. You being scared is only going to hurt. If she wasn't interested she wouldn't have texted you "hey I'm single".


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:20 pm 
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here is what she texted me last night...

Steph: I'm really sad

Me: Why? You seemed pretty happy

Me: Aren't you going to learn how to play the guitar?

Steph: I just got really sad about my ex I just got so so sad I just want deep fried pickles ice cream and a good movie and sweat pants and someone to play with my hair and not judge me when I emotionally break down and my dad's cancer is back and I haven't seen him because I hate seeing him sick I feel so sick to my stomach and I am so sorry I dropped that all on you.

Me: Forget about your ex he didn't deserve you in the first place. As for your dad, you'll make the best decision for yourself for what you think is best.

Me: I know I wouldn't judge you but I'm not an expert at playing with hair so don't know what to say to you about that one :P

Steph: Clearly I'm just not good enough to hold onto I did everything and more it was never the same so many broken promises. There's just so much wrong right now.

Me: You are good enough to hold on to.

Steph: No I'm not :(

Me: You are it's a blessing in disguise, you deserve better.

Steph: How can you say that

Me: Any guy would want you, you're not superficial like 99% of the girls. You're real.

Steph: I'm just me and apparently being me is not better than that.

Me: It is to some people. You should be happy you're not wasting your time.

Steph: Thanks :(

Anyways we continued talking and I cheered her up with a bunch of stupid jokes and got her laughing. by this point it was like 3am so she stopped texting and I said;

Me: You must have fallen asleep have a good night and sweet dreams :)

what does this mean am I screwed?


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:42 pm 
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Oh yuck man...

Emotional tampon to the max.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:23 pm 
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Is there a way I can recover from this?


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 Post subject: Re: NEED HELP
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:53 pm 
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Is there a way I can recover from this?
Act like that last text conversation never happened. Never bring it up. Pick out a fun activity and ask her if she wants to go.

And when you do that activity, escalate with her. If she is more focused on you then she'll quit worrying about her x. And if she continues to bring him up after you've been making out with her or fucking her then you have to make the decision if you want to keep hearing that shit or if you don't mind the risk and tell her point blank that you're more worried about present than past. Even something like "Are you happier now or when you were with him and he was cheating on you and ignoring you?" When she says "now" say "then quit worrying about it and quit making yourself miserable. I'm not going to help you feel miserable by talking to you about your ex all the time."

It's brutal but might snap her out of it. But it might just piss her off.


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