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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:40 am 
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Is ugly, dumb and has a stutter try the techniques?

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Man, if your talking about yourself... it sounds like you have some serious self esteem issues. One of the biggest parts of this pua thing is self improvement. If you dont think you're smart, you can always learn. You can always see a speech coach to get rid of the stutter, and ugly is so subjective.


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If you're talking about yourself, I seriously hope that you do...
you'll see a lot of guys on here talking about improving their confidence...
remember, we all fail sometimes... thats the point where you realize that you shouldn't be ashamed of failing.. you should be ashamed of not trying again


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:30 am 
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No.

Prove me wrong.

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I can't a image a successful PUA with a stutter. There really is no cure for stuttering. Now, I don't stutter all the time. Some words I usually don't stutter with. It just depends on what it is but my stutter is definitely there. When I'm nervous my stutter is exacerbated. Even when I'm not nervous, I'll still stutter some.

There are different kinds of dumb I think. I have a bad short term memory. I'm also not good at thinking on my feet. I also have a hard time keeping up in conversations. It gets to the point where I don't even know what people are talking about anymore. Although never actually diagnosed, I think I have a learning disability. My stutter and lack of intelligence drove me to the point to where I quit college.

As far as being ugly, I agree it can be subjective, but only to a certain degree. There are guys that 99.9% of women who look at them will think they are ugly. Same goes for guys who are attractive. A girl would have to be pretty messed up to find me attractive and I haven't met a girl that messed up.

I'm just afraid of trying something that may become a disaster and cause me to feel worse about myself. Do you guys know what I mean?

I appreciate the responses, guys. Thanks.


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You will never know until you try, what if it is completely opposite of what you are thinking and you become more social and "acceptable" to the people you don't talk to.

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To me, it's like swimming across the Pacific Ocean - I've never tried it but I know I can't do it. That's what if feels like.


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Don't try to use it all at once. Learn about getting over AA. Go buy food somewhere and just start talking to people around you. You will realize that people are happy to talk.

A little later you could try to add some routines and such.

Basically. You gotta learn to walk before you can run. Take it in baby steps.


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I agree with taking baby steps... When you get rid of that nervous feeling you wont stutter as much, and im sure a little stutter here and there will not be a big deal in a conversation unless you make it a big deal. And the part about being ugly... im sure if you try to improve your looks in other ways like dressing better, working out, new hair cut, etc.. you wont look as bad as you think you do.

I see that you are really down on yourself, and i think that a little self improvement will do wonders for your self esteem.


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I'm just afraid of trying something that may become a disaster and cause me to feel worse about myself. Do you guys know what I mean?
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Thanks for all the replies, guys. It's definitely going to have to be in baby steps.

I have this problem of not being able to think of intelligent/witty things to say.

It all just seems so hard to me.


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Then don't at first. It's completely okay to have a generic conversation. Most of my day is not very interesting- it's okay to start without anything amazing flying out of your mouth.

If you want to start using witty conversation, think ahead and figure out things to say before you start talking. The reason I'm getting better at conversation is that I sat down and watched movies to learn how they said things. Then I went online and read things. Then books. Etc., etc.

Remember, there is nothing wrong in your life that you can't make right. The power of your life is that it's YOURS.

Go take it over.

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Yeah, I think I might check out some books that might help me. Watching movies sounds like a good idea too.


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I'm just afraid of trying something that may become a disaster and cause me to feel worse about myself. Do you guys know what I mean?

I appreciate the responses, guys. Thanks.
Dude, from the sounds of it, it cant become a disaster. What you are now is a disaster (no offense). The only place to go now is up. Just soak up the game as much as possible. If you are worried about your appearance, there is a section for that. You say your a boring person when it comes to conversing, there is a section for that. The only thing that could be considered a real challenge is AA (approach anxiety, in case you're new). There are many ways to handle that. The first step for you is to feel better about yourself. You had not one good thing to say about yourself. That is a problem. I'm sure that there is something that you do thats unique. If not, Go find something. The first step from someone in your situation is to get out and build your confidence so you'll be ready to use your PU knowledge.


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