What's up my fellow brothers.

My story goes like this....

First off.....I'm probably older than most y'all (just turned 43) but I thank God for having great genetics (I still pass for 32 everyday - Full head of hair, no wrinkles, etc.).

I just got out of a 3 year relationship (ended 2 months ago) with a girl who pretty much tried to ruin me (and I almost allowed her to) emotionally and mentally.

I went completely Beta over her. She had another guy less than 5 days after we split (I think she was cheating on me towards the end) and yet I begged, cried, and pleaded for her to give it another shot. After this things got real bad as she had 100% of the power....and she just continued to be the world biggest bitch to me in every way you could possibly think of (and even some you can't). Shit got really bad...and I let this chick turn me into a basket case for a bit.

I know...I know....pathetic. I get it....trust me do I ever.

Well...I finally accepted the break up and stopped romanticizing her and the relationship. When I did that I realized just what a bitch she is and how lucky I am to not be with someone like that and have to put up with all of her bullshit.

After that realization, I started doing shit for myself. I'm back in college getting a degree in a field I want to work in for the rest of my life, I'm back in the gym 5 days a week lifting weights and working on getting an amazing body.....and I'm trading the stock market again (a former hobby of mine that I stopped doing because of my "x") and am making a killing.

So....you may be asking yourself....ok....dude seems to have his shit together so why is he on here..?

Well.....in the 3 years I was in that relationship I mentioned earlier, I lost something. My ability to create attraction with girls.

Here's the thing.....I don't have approach anxiety.....I can talk to any girl I want no matter if she's a 10 or a 2. I can build rapport like nobody's business and close getting her number (unless she's married, boyfriend, lesbian, etc).

My problem is either weak follow through or non attraction. What do I mean by this..? Well, by "weak follow through" I mean I get her number but either I call and talk to her on the phone and she become not interested in going out on a date (even though when I talked to her initially I had her laughing and had her interested enough in me and the conversation to give me her number) or I get "friend zoned" (she is just not attracted to me in a sexual or romantic way).

I tell you, having this happen multiple times can kill a guys confidence.....but I keep my chin up by telling myself it's a numbers game (and I remind myself I have had some smoking hot girlfriends....so whatever it is can be fixed).

I mostly like day game and focus on natural game and rapport building. I like day game because it's easier opening girls in the day because their guard is down (versus a club or bar environment where direct approaching is a lot tougher and the male competition is fierce).

Well....that's my story. I'm on here looking to you PUA's, and "Pro's with the ladies" to help me get my mojo back. Any and all advice is appreciated.

I live in Southern California "home of the hotties"...and I need to be getting my fair share again...ha haha.

I'll be checking out the forums and all the info you guys have on here.

I'm looking forward to becoming a part of your community and getting to know you all.

Cheers

First off the bat...it's not about looks, it's not about age, it's about you being able to play the game.

The weak follow through is an easy fix if you had a situation I could completely map it out. I would advise texting if you are horrid on the phone for a simple meet-up. Mostly these days everyone texts.

The non-attractions take a few steps to cure, in fact it might be several who knows. There are many patterns and techniques that rid you of non-attraction and will make you into a stud dripping with sex. CONFIDENCE is a basic one.

By the sounds of it you've had great girlfriends and you can again, but maybe you shouldn't be so quick to aim for a girlfriend and just play the basic game with no pressure, no expectations and just take a breather. Long term relationshits are a pain in the ass and I tell everyone take a breather because everyone seems so quick to jump the gun like the world's going to fall apart if they don't get a lay in the next few days. Don't know what the fuck is up with them.

Anyway, I hope something I said was helpful and I only gave a few tips because there is so much more I could talk about and advise you with, but I need more details about situations and what you're lacking, but with weak follow-through and non-attraction there are a dozen of ways to work those problems out.

PM ME if you need any advice help on any matters and I will assist the best I can with the knowledge I have. Looking forward to hearing from you and good luck!

Hey TheBlackMagician...!!

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I could really use some direction and you sound like the man to help out.

I'd love to get more in depth on my situations, my approach, and see what you think.

I just met this super hottie named L at Starbucks yesterday. She is from Texas and just moved out here. I got her number and called her today. She didn't remember meeting me right away but within 5 seconds of talking to me she was like, "Oh yeah...Hi...!!" We talked for about 5 mins and than I ended the convo and told her we should get together this weekend for lunch (can't do any night time activities because of work). She was all about it and said she loves going to brunch but she was going to a Padres game and than might be partying in Gaslamp tonight. I told her I was just planning on studying and going to the gym tomorrow before I have to go to work so if she was down to meet up than to call me.

Before hanging up, she mentioned that being new to the area, she is stokked to have a new friend.

Ugh...see...already going down the dreaded "friend zone" once again. I dunno...maybe I'm reading too much into it but I don't feel the "attraction/chemistry" happening at all. Most of our conversation was focused around her getting a job out here. I offered to help her as I have worked in her industry before. I did make her laugh a few times on the phone by being witty but that was it.

I also met this other hottie today in one of my classes named K. We worked in a group today to complete a lab. I got her number (more based off of the whole lets hang out and study thing) but I'd like to see if I can make a go of her as well.

Both are 25 years old..!!

Any thoughts..??

Hey black magician, Pretty Boy here,

I think you're actually running into problems with framing. I would do a little work on exploring your interactions and make sure you're drawing attraction when you meet her. Make yourself fascinating so she can't say no, and make sure you arent getting her number. Get her to give it to you without asking. You may also be having problems with D2 game. You'll need to make sure you're being just as attractive as you were in the beginning and you must continue to establish rapport. I would look into your framing though. Maybe play a game with her where you make her your gf and just play that role. All in all though, work on making sure you are confident in yourself and don't ever let a girl get to you. If you aren't having success, try something completely different and don't be afraid to get blown out.

Best of luck man.

Pretty Boy

This goes to The Pretty Boy...

I don't have any issues with having females think that I'm attractive because I'm always confident and honestly I really don't give a fuck what people think it's why they cling on to me because I'm something fresh.

As much as I'm confident and even at times controlling, I'm a real smooth talker and I can flirt the panties off of so many girls like you wouldn't believe and make it all sound like innocent small talk, but trick them into craving me with certain comments and...I do it naturally because it's really just who I am and it just pops in my head like all the time. Ok I'm not bragging, but maybe just a little haha

And with framing which I think you mean Frame Control which is basically just your state of mind I've got no problem in that area. The reason why I play the game like I do is because so many go in expecting greatness and every little fail they do takes some big toll on them...it's pretty much me not giving a fuck like I said earlier.

Also I've found in the past females who have given me their number suddenly without me asking sometimes play too many games, not all of them, but every time they do give it to me I get a little suspicious to say the least because there's been some BATSHIT CRAZY ONES. Not saying I haven't had a few CRAZY FUN ONES though, haha.

And I also have no problems with D2, but it's just I'd rather not get into some crazy serious thing and waste my time on one main chick all the time if you feel me. It's why individuals need to understand that dating and a relationship are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I can go on several dates and still not be considered her boyfriend or be considered her boyfriend and have it still not a relationship. It sounds confusing sometimes, but it's really not.

But nonetheless I'm sure many are fine playing the role of boyfriend, I just don't find it appealing and find it a huge waste of time depending on the situation. It's why I was telling him earlier without knowing his situation completely I couldn't really advise too much stuff, but I did my best with what I had because weak follow-through and non-attraction has so many forms to be fixed and has so many forms to be bad.

But techniques to build attraction are being confident, smiling, eye contact, kino methods, and playing hard to get to an extent You want to let them know you're interested, but not head over heels like an idiot so they'll always be trying to win your affections over.

I appreciate the advice though The Pretty Boy, but I just don't feel like I have problems with those few things you said although I do admit I suck at being relationship material, but not dating material as going out and flirting and keeping my attraction booming. Most women want the relationship material though after the sex and dating process and I think you might be right that it may be a good idea to play the role just to keep them interested, but it sounds wasteful when you could put more time into other women than just that one...at least that's how I feel.

Don't get me wrong I think you know your stuff very well The Pretty Boy, but maybe you just didn't know my situation well enough or how I play the game. We all have our own techniques and different ways that we hone our craft in the field that's what makes the community of Pick Up Artists so great, but I can tell yours and mine differ greatly. Best wishes to you man.


NOTE : Also Johnny Cat I'm going to PM you with the advice on your situation so we can further discuss things in detail. I'm glad you took a liking to my post and the way I work things. Always glad to be assistance.