What's the Difference Between Confidence vs Arrogance?



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Jesus Christ. It's like the most retarded questions get the most responses on this board.

I googled it. Thanks a lot.

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There are two things, basically.

1. Confidence is based on real self-esteem. Arrogance, annoying arrogance, is when a guy has no self-esteem, and overcompensates by acting perfect.

2. Genuine care for the well-being of others. I'm selfish, honestly, but I don't tolerate people harming others. Arrogance, legitimate narcissism, is when someone views everyone else in the world solely based on what they can provide the narcissist.

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Jesus Christ. It's like the most retarded questions get the most responses on this board.

I googled it. Thanks a lot.
Are you acknowledging your question as being retarded?


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There are two things, basically.

1. Confidence is based on real self-esteem. Arrogance, annoying arrogance, is when a guy has no self-esteem, and overcompensates by acting perfect.

2. Genuine care for the well-being of others. I'm selfish, honestly, but I don't tolerate people harming others. Arrogance, legitimate narcissism, is when someone views everyone else in the world solely based on what they can provide the narcissist.
Thanks. I knew I could easily find the answer via search engine, but I figured people could discuss the topic or pick up some knowledge in this thread.

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Arrogance is retarded, confidence is not.


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Arrogance is hoping you are the shit and wanting to tell the world. Confidence is knowing you are good and not feeling the need to advertise.


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Depends on who is perceiving whom and who is interacting with whom. It's all about calibration.

If you're around losers and they feel like you're rubbing your success in, they'll think you're arrogant. If you're around winners, they'll think you're just a normal, confident guy.

Among women the interaction goes somewhat like this so they won't be perceived as arrogant.

Girl 1: You're so beautiful in your selfie!
Girl 2: No I'm not. You're more beautiful than I am.

Among men when a confident guy is interacting with losers, he calibrates how he communicates this way:

Confident Man: I failed a lot before. I suffered. Now that I've learned my lessons, no offense, but I think you can solve your problems this way.
Loser: Thanks a lot man. I really appreciate it. You're so humble.

Among men when a confident guy is interacting with fellow winners, he says things as they are:

Confident Man: Fuck man! I just banged an HB10 last night.
Winner: That's great man. So what happened? We might learn a thing or two with your interaction.
Confident Man: Blah, blah, blah.
Winner: Cool. I learned a thing or two from that. Thanks a lot buddy.

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It seems this thread has gathered enough responses to be deemed "retarded". Jk Sorry for my AFC moment/s. I have juhPut it in her Butt?" with 7 pages.

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Depends on who is perceiving whom and who is interacting with whom. It's all about calibration.
Excellent observation. This was truly what made me ask myself this question. I was wondering if it was probably the environment/crowd. I hate to call anyone a loser, but I believe I was around losers. I thought I was doing everything right: shoulders back, head straight, eye contact, getting cool with all the bros, but I started to get the feeling the girls were getting the impression I was being arrogant.

You see, a friend of a friend took us to a dive spot and he was going to have some girls meet us up there. These girls were nothing special, but I played nice. I got to talking to one girl (not even the hottest). She was kind of cool at first, but then she started acting stuck up. I then clinked glasses with her, and went about my business. I got the same impression from other girls in the place, so I decided to head out.

As far as confidence vs arrogance, I read that someone that's confident, is not afraid to own up to mistakes and is willing to take advice; meanwhile, an arrogant person is not, due to their insecurities.

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Both snobbery and arrogance are attitudes based on the people surrounding you. Confidence is fully internal and has nothing to do with other people.

I see arrogance as having control at its core. Some of what is being called "arrogant" is what I would call "snobbery". "I'm better than you - be gone" is more snobbery than arrogant. Arrogant is more like "You need to listen to me, because I'm better than you". The snob doesn't want to associate with you, while the arrogant person does(to control you).

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Both snobbery and arrogance are attitudes based on the people surrounding you. Confidence is fully internal and has nothing to do with other people.

I see arrogance as having control at its core. Some of what is being called "arrogant" is what I would call "snobbery". "I'm better than you - be gone" is more snobbery than arrogant. Arrogant is more like "You need to listen to me, because I'm better than you". The snob doesn't want to associate with you, while the arrogant person does(to control you).
So then based on your examples, would you say confidence is "You don't have to listen to me if you don't want to"?

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You see, a friend of a friend took us to a dive spot and he was going to have some girls meet us up there. These girls were nothing special, but I played nice. I got to talking to one girl (not even the hottest). She was kind of cool at first, but then she started acting stuck up. I then clinked glasses with her, and went about my business. I got the same impression from other girls in the place, so I decided to head out.
Ah, yes. The solution seems to become almost similar with a slight edge with the people around you. Social scientists call it propinquity.

If you stray too far from the norm (topics-wise, dress-wise and so on), you'll get treated as an outcast. It's calibration usually. People like people who are almost similar to themselves. And when you have that slight edge, you're treated as an alpha male. If you go over the norm, a lot of people will hate you or maybe even consider you nuts/arrogant or a braggart.

In a land populated mostly by virgins, the guy who banged 800 women is arrogant or a braggart. A lot of virgins will hate the dude for that claim.

But among guys who have banged a lot of women themselves, they'll probably think, "Yeah, he could have banged around 200 or 400 but I think 800 is too much. It's possible though but unlikely. Maybe we can learn something from him."

So... It's probably not a good idea to talk to girls in there about topics that go beyond their common experience.

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So then based on your examples, would you say confidence is "You don't have to listen to me if you don't want to"?
More or less. "This is what I would do, do what you think is best".

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Thanks all.

Good info, hellhound.

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