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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:14 am 
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Hi All,

My first time posting and I have some questions.

First my background. I just got out of a super long term relationship 6 weeks ago, and have suddenly found that I am extremely good at approaching women in the daytime with almost perfect situational topics!

Being a writer I think is what helps - I can think of great question or observation on the spot, in supermarkets, bookstores, home furnishing stores, hell, even bike riding along side a woman and saying I need to get a basket like hers!

I often have 10 to 30 minute conversations where women often suggest I take their info or ask for mine.

One hottie (also a writer) in a bookstore suggested we go for coffee - took my digits, thanked me for being so friendly and yet she never called! (I was actually avoiding another girl I previously met there who happened to be there and I didn't want to see her since we had a date set up for the following week)


Now, here are my deficits -

Live in NYC - one of the tougher places I suspect. Women on the street or subway will often not even look at a guy out of fear. Also there are so many hot guys here, young, old, powerful, wealthy ballers, long hair musicians, hipsters, etc. Plus several women I met and hit it off with are only here for a short time don't want to start anything - or are leaving the next day!

I'm only 5'4 - this has been a major problem my entire life but I am extremely creative, very smart and funny, have a good career in media, a big personality and a deep booming voice. I have definitely interested women and dated women taller than I am - but it's a dealbreaker for many! This is a reason I don't do online dating - I feel it would disqualify me but in person some women will be okay with it after hearing me talk to her or a friend.

49 years old (but can pass for up to 10 years younger) - people are shocked when they find out how old I am. And all the women I'm meeting and after seem to be in their 20's. Even met a cute college freshman tonight who I dazzled with my career insight and who just emailed me.

Have lost my hair (but always wear a cool hat) One extremely hot asian woman I've been seeing (who was a beauty contestant) told me asian people loose thier hair (which I inferred as her accepting of me) She is most definitely a virgin and that;s a long tail relationship to crack that nut since she has very traditional values not being from the US. I really want to explore a committed relationship with her but that will take many months to see where it goes and in the meantime am having a lot of fun meeting other women. This has resulted in only 1 make session with another woman who will now not see my until my ex moves out (and that will be a while which is okay by me since we get along well, and helps financially)

Not that handsome or fit - but not overweight!

Wear glasses - but have blue eyes (maybe I should try contacts again - though I hated them)

OK - so now you know way too much about me.

So here are my questions.

Woman sometimes give me their info - but then don't respond to my text or email. I usually only wait 2 days because in this fast paced city, 2 days to me often feels like 2 weeks worth of events have happened.
On two occasions I jumped the gun and contacted a girl I met Fri night (both suggested I take their info) and contacted them the next afternoon hoping they'd respond and meet that night. Won't do that again.

The Questions:

(1) So, if a woman ignored the first text (2 days later) should I just move on, or give it a try one more time 5 days later?

(2) is it okay to do a slight neg in the text/email - but one that ends on a positive or funny note?

(3) Should I ask them out on the first time I contact them - I've tried both ways and still not sure what works.

The car game -

Here in NYC (which is not car centric at all - but having even a shit-box can be seen as a big asset for getting to great but far areas of Brooklyn or outside the city) I am stupid enough to own a really sweet late model (used and rare) Porsche.

One girl who I picked on our second date had no clue as to the brand name - seriously! The Asian girl was impressed.


(4) Should I ever slide the car brand name into conversation?
I had the balls to recently talk up a tall hot blonde runway model who gave me her number (on the auspices I knew someone in casting) but she ignored my short casual text.

Should I as a last ditch effort offer to take her to some cool destination in my Porsche? (I would even be happy to befriend her to be able hang out in her model filled hostile)

Or is this asset better left to impress girls only when they see it as I am picking them up on a car date (which is generally not the first date)

(5) I tend to almost never complement a girls looks, since I feel they hear that all the time. I may complement her earrings, etc or say I believe in her future at her job/company, but try not do the typical crap guys do. But should I being saying in a text or email I find them attractive, easy o the eyes, etc to let them know I don't see them as a friend?


I'm interested in the follow ups (non responders, the model) purely for testing purposes only - I wasn't even that into either one but looked at them as a challenge!


I know I am pretty damn good at talking to random women for good blocks of time and keeping their interest (day game only) that it will be hard to give up when I'm finally in the relationship I desire!!! I'm really just doing this to find the hottie twenty (or 30 something of my dreams)

If I was taller I know I'd be getting laid a lot - but such is life. I guess many of us here have issues we have to work around.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:46 pm 
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Ok, that was long. You may want to condense future posts... You'll get a lot more replies.

Welcome to the forums. I'm happy to hear you want to learn.

The bigger the city, the easier it is to do pickup IMO. NYC is perfect.

Your age does not matter. Lots of older posters here. Successful older posters.

Overall, from this giant post, I'm spotting that you're working through email and text a lot... and you need to....... not be doing that. It's fine to stay in contact, build some interest and make her laugh a bit, but you need to be calling them and seeing them in person.

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The Questions:

(1) So, if a woman ignored the first text (2 days later) should I just move on, or give it a try one more time 5 days later?
Try again. Nothing to lose. Ignore the first message(s) you sent. Don't mention them at all... Make the new message about something completely unrelated... Or call her instead.
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(2) is it okay to do a slight neg in the text/email - but one that ends on a positive or funny note?
Sarcasm=OK... Negs=No. Stay away from them unless you know you can deliver it really, really well and it won't be mis-interpreted... You probably don't even need to use negs at all, honestly. They're meant for 9s and 10s... to knock them down a peg. Negging anyone other than that, who isn't being a bitch to you is just pointless and won't get you anywhere.
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(3) Should I ask them out on the first time I contact them - I've tried both ways and still not sure what works.
That's something you need to gauge yourself. Really depends on the girl and how your interactions are going. If she's SUPER receptive, laughing at everything you say, and replying with a lot of messages, that's a good sign. When she's the one starting the conversations, that's another...

Again, call - I get that you're a writer... call anyway. Way harder for them to say no... and you're also not left with the problem of question #1 (above) where they just ignore you... at least you'll know, one way or the other.

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(4) Should I ever slide the car brand name into conversation?
I had the balls to recently talk up a tall hot blonde runway model who gave me her number (on the auspices I knew someone in casting) but she ignored my short casual text.

Should I as a last ditch effort offer to take her to some cool destination in my Porsche? (I would even be happy to befriend her to be able hang out in her model filled hostile)

Or is this asset better left to impress girls only when they see it as I am picking them up on a car date (which is generally not the first date)
No. Just no. An older, used Porche? C'mon... you can DHV yourself better than that. Don't boast about an old car. Unless she's a petty little girl she won't give a fuck what you drive... (if you had a late-model Ferrari, my response may be different).
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(5) I tend to almost never complement a girls looks, since I feel they hear that all the time. I may complement her earrings, etc or say I believe in her future at her job/company, but try not do the typical crap guys do. But should I being saying in a text or email I find them attractive, easy o the eyes, etc to let them know I don't see them as a friend?
It's fine to let them know they're hot. If they actually are hot, they already know. Complimenting accessories is a great idea... It's indirect. Always have a reason to compliment... IE: "I like your necklace, it matches your eyes" as opposed to "I like your necklace"


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:04 pm 
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Hi Charles - thanks for the reply.

The text/emails are just initial contact after meeting - I get that the purpose to arrange a meet, not have a real conversation.

I have been told by girls they never talk on the phone - just text. I wonder if calling them would make me seem old school?

The car is about 3 years old - not an old one (though recently bought it used). Was thinking it might be worth mentioning just to that runway model as a way to temp her to take a trip outside Manhattan.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:16 pm 
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The car is about 3 years old - not an old one (though recently bought it used). Was thinking it might be worth mentioning just to that runway model as a way to temp her to take a trip outside Manhattan.

^^ Do what you'd like, man. Sounds tacky as fuck to me, but to each his own.


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dont talk about your Porsche- either let her just figure it out that you have one when she sees it

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