So whats going on here nat is that you want to get the "special girl" without really becoming the "special" guy.
In the real world it doesnt work that way. Unless you get lucky, and thats not reliable.
Its a huge mismatch. Why would a girl like her who has many options get with a guy like you who has 0 options?

You gave it a good shot but your lack of options made you reak desperation. You need to become a ladies man, build your abundance, little by little and gain a thorough understanding of what it takes to attract women. Start by going to nightclub/bars and chatting up girls, chat up girls during the day, gain knowledge as to what they like/dont like, theres a huge database of advice out there that will surely help you. I recommend reading "models" by mark manson, great book for meeting and understanding women.

So yea man, keep working on yourself and dont get so fixated on one girl, it will never work out, unless is a fatty who is also fixated on you. But you dont like fatties haha. You want a woman of quality, become a man of quality .

So j, magicpot is your boyfriend? lol feisty one eyy musta given you alot of LMR.
Im glad the relationship is flourishing now, keep trolling together, is cute.

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i agree with dtrak here

go find some resources on how to better improve your charisma, self confidence etc.

though personally i dont agree with all of the pua lines and what not, they are good at recognising do's and donts.

for example
do's:
- be confident
- be a man and assume control (not forcefully)

do nots:
-let them dictate straight away
- be a bf before even having slept with them (or even right after)

etc, i hope you get the point

so i feel that you would be better served to understand yourself from reading marcus oakey (charisma coach) and james marshall (natural gamer). dtrak's mention of how to talk to women would also be helpful

as soon as you start understanding and get a feel for it, get out there, start small (eg. time and aim of interaction). dont be trying to get numbers straight away, just find what works and what doesnt. as marcus oakey also explains, dont see your interactions as negative, see it as "this will go well, or i have a funny story"

I may get stick from all the pua's on here or whatever, but they assume that everyone needs to be at their level, everyone is different and i dont think a barrage of negative comments is going to help improve.

Oh so shes the one? Shes literally the ONLY girl whos this special? Lol ok. That IS ONEITIS!! Thats exactly what oneitis is lol. I've got it with my ex girlfriend at the moment. Guess what? I had it with the girl before her, the one before her, and the one before her. At the time, I thought all were AMAZING! I got a feeling of "Oh wow, finally, THIS is what its all about! Other girls dont even compete!" I knew I could have other girls, but I just didn't want them. Why would I? THIS ONE WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL! But guess what... you're putting her on a pedestal. I promise you, you are. She fucked your friend on the first night... I'm sorry to judge her, but that instantly stops her being perfection.

You wont stand a chance with her until you learn to see her as (very slightly below) an equal. Think of it this way, you're not sharing the value 50-50... no, you're 51% of the high value, shes 49%

"Good at picking up fat chicks" ...treat all girls the same. Talk to the hot ones the same way you'd talk to the fat ones. Read the Corey Wayne book that I posted, you'll learn so much. You can also watch his videos (but don't substitute the book for the videos - do both!)

But one thing that I want to beg from you, is to ignore dtrak's advice. I'm not the only one who has told you to do so. You've taken his advice already on this thread, and it didn't work. I don't know what his last reply said because I didn't read it, but you genuinely do need to back off! If you want, you can send me a private message with your SPAM, and we can talk on there.

EDIT: dtrak's last reply wasn't as terrible as his previous ones. The last 2 lines were kind of pathetic, though. He also neglected to mention that she actually is NOT special, at all. She shits, farts, burps, probably even picks her nose when nobody is watching. Ask yourself: What does she have to offer you, that another girl can't? You think shes special because your thoughts are coming from a place of scarcity. Trust me, once you've got other options lined up, you won't even bother wasting time with girls like this who show low interest. Its HER loss. NOT YOURS.

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Negative comments? Not 1 single person has given him a negative comment. We've all actually tried in our own way to help him. I've used constructive, harsh but fair criticism. dtrak gave what most of us would consider bad advice, but it was still advice. Nobody has given a negative comment?

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DUDE! Stop being an Elliot Rodgers by being all like "but Im so much better"! And stop the uncongruent back and forth texting! Once she is hooked, you can only fuck things up by talking too much, specially via text, which is really unpersonal! Look, you do not ASK women things when it comes to making plans. Ever. Men plan, women follow. That is why we are the ultimate gender.

I'll side with J. Daniels here and say you have fucked up. Also, for the things he mentioned. You would be extremely lucky to get out of this now (not that you should care too much, because if you do, you are already putting too much value on her and are doomed to fail again). Anyway, for the next time, instead of asking her to pick a day the correct answer is "OK then, I'll meet you on XYZ at XYZ place".

And one more thing for when it comes to dates, specially first ones: Either pick something involving action, so the date is so fun you don't even have to do that much yourself (think surfing, skating, going to a comedy club, hell, even bowling) or something that doesn't require loads of commitement (for example, it's better to take your date to a fancy bar for a drink or two so she knows she's not stuck with you in there forever if things go sour. Plus, booze, duh).

Cheers man, we will all make it.

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I agree with pretty much everything the other guy said, but I do think you should ask when she is free, for one reason:

If you say "Lets go to ____ on Wednesday?" and shes busy, then you're stuck... you either suggest another day and risk looking like you're completely open, or just assume its a complete rejection and give up.

I suppose though, if she says shes busy... you wait for the "but I am free on Monday, and Thursday... how about then?" from her... if you don't get that, take it as rejection? Hmm....

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J.Daniels@ I would stop wasting my time here if I were you. There are a few set of rules you are meant to apply if you plan on getting any good at this game: 1. Have power of will. 2. Be humble, listen and follow what those who've been doing this for years have to teach you. 3. Never stop studying and learning from your mistakes.

Clearly, OP is unwilling to do any of this. I think he came here looking for some magical supernatural phrase that he could utter to this girl and hypothesize her into wanting to fuck him. He'll accept nothing else but that.

Your skills and time would be better spent helping those who are actually willing to listen.

I agree, but we're finally getting somewhere on SPAM, slowly. Also had a guy message me asking for advice, because he liked the advice on this thread. I get a weird kick out of helping people with issues when it comes to girls... hard to explain haha

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"Yo im the best guy on the planet. The #1! Fuck all you other alphas, betas, i dont fucking care.... yall are omegas in my book. Every female on the planet must mate with me. I will accept nothing else. To fuck me is your privilege... bitch "

You need that mindset. (For yourself, you will gain a lot of confidence) (And it should soak panties). Try to subcommunicate to girls that you truly think like that and that you BELIEVE IT.

Avoid displaying those thoughts when your around other men. They will quickly dislike you and want yo burry you.


Sound like your sooooooo far from that mindset reading this post made ME sad. And usually its only fighting with my parents that will bring up those feelings ;p