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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:17 pm 
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Hi dudes i'm Dapps

I recently started a self improvement plan in which i was going to make the best version of my self. E.G. started working out, got contact lenses and have my driving test in a few days. I mentioned this to a friend, and he responded by recommending a book, him and are other mutual friend read a few months back, The Game. I found this book fascinating and started looking up PUA videos, ordering other PUA'S books and eventually ended up here.

Here's where i need some advice, during this period a girl i have fancied since the day i saw her randomly started texting me a few days back. I responded and we have been talking i also have been round her house twice in the past few days. she was texting me a day back and i think i have messed my chances up. i don't know if i'm just being paranoid? or if i have messed things up, is there a way to repair the damaged caused? or if she even liked me at all?.

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This girl is a friend and ex colleague of my mother. She i a year younger than me, and extremely hot. I would be so nervous around her if she would come round my house to see my mother, and i knew she could tell this, but never showed any signs of interest.

but recently (Sunday) however out of the blue (or maybe she noticed the change in me ) she started texting me, asking how i was and, if i would like to come and see her new apartment (that day) that she rents with her sister ( she had previously mentioned she her apartment before ). I acted cool and said.

Dapps: I would like to but i cant as im busy tonight, do u have any other time off?
HB: yer pretty much every night of the week xx
Dapps: cool ill text u some time in the week
HB: looking forward to it xx

So i wait a day and text her the next night, and i go over. Both her and her elder sister are there, we open a couple bottles of wine and i relax and we start talking, while trying not to ignore the sister, sitting in a relaxed manner and keeping eye contact when i got the tour of the house. When we get to her room there is a few pictures of her boyfriend, so this throws me off a little bit thinking "why has she invited me her". I leave a few hours later having had a good laugh and learnt that she cant see herself having kids or getting married to this guy, but still mentions him every so often ( so i take it as a good sign that she doesnt see a long term future with him).

I get a text the next day saying "i really enjoyed lat night we should do it again soon", i'm thinking "Reeesult", but her sister starts FB messaging and me telling me i'm a "really nice guy" (i'm gong to point out the other sister is a little weird, not as good looking and NEEDY) so i try and not leading her on, and make my replies as short as possible. As this is happening i get the HB texting me warning me that her sister fancies me and that i should be weary, we then joke about the situation and that she has to help me if not shes not allowed around my house ( as she was going to visit my mum ). We devised a plan and continue talking until we go to bed.

The next day (Thursday) after i finish work she sends me this
HB: just opened a bottle of wine :) xx
Dapps: oh really, well have one for me. although a glass of wine does sound tempting.
HB: you can come round if u like xx
Dapps: yer why not ill see u around 10ish :)
i arrive and shes alone, (however in her pjj's) and we sit and drink, i start talking about her relationships with people and how i think she feels( if only in knew the cube then ), like how she's very independent but wishes ti be looked after. again he have a good night but no escalation, however she was playing with her hair ALOT. Again later that night she texts " i really enjoyed tonight thank you, see you soon xx" (we organised to go to the cinema on Monday with a mutual friend)

This is were i think i messed up(Friday). She texts me while she is at work
HB: im soo bored at work right now xx
Me at this point didn't act coolly ( and tried to be funny ) and replied quikly with this
Dapps: why don't we play a game
Dapps: would u rather
Dapps: have tongues for legs or penises for arms?
i know it was terrible this is what i got back, and i noticed that the double kisses stoped along with longer replies
HB: WTF lol
Dapps: its a game come on
HB: tongues for legs lol
Dapps: but hen u would taste the floor lol
Dapps: what would u normally do to pass the time?
HB: drink coffee lol
Dapps: some one knows how to live ;)
HB: haha yeah
At this point i have my head in my hands, feeling like a twat. I stop as i don't want to further the damage.

so this is where im at, a day later and i feel like a twat and am worrying if i have lost my chance with the girl. I am wondering if anyone has any tips in which i can save me self from being swept up under the carpet and forgooten about? or if she was ever interested at all?

Sorry about the long ass post but thought this would be the best place to go.

any advice would be grateful.

Dapps

P.S i later find out that HB hasn't told her boyfriend about me coming over.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:27 pm 
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Oh by the way i'm 20,a virgin, live in England, hopeless around girls about a 6 on wards . So i Though I'd improve my self.


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First of all, welcome!

Seems like you worry too much.

Why do you suspect that you may have messed something up? Based on what you've told us there doesn't seem to be any cause for alarm.

However, you're working way too slowly. That night you went over to her house and the two of you were alone, you could have easily sealed the deal.

All you really needed/need with this girl is kino escalation and you're good to go.

Since you are a virgin, however, I can understand if any sort of quick escalation is intimidating to you. But learning pickup is all about pushing yourself out of your comfort zone.

So get used to trying a shitload of new things from here on out ;)
(This also includes approaching and meeting tons of new women and not just worrying about this one girl)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:57 pm 
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Chief thank you for the reply. i don't know why i was being paranoid either, she actually texted me that night and invited me over again. It was just us two again, but however i acted to slowly again and nothing happened :? . There was some escalation and she opened up a bit more once a ran the cube on her, she started calling me names and we ended up play fighting ( and by that i mean she hit me a few times, i threw stuff at her and we fought over a few items), but however she keeps mentioning her boyfriend. So this is confusing me. I don't know if shes doing it out of guilt. however she has never declared her love for him, just things like, when she was touching her neck area i asked her what her necklace was and she would say that he (her boyfriend)bought it for her, she then went on to say that he bought her this and that.

She obviously likes me as there is so many signs that she does E.G she texts me nearly everyday ( starting conversations), touching her neck area and hair, keeps eye contact, play fighting and that she keeps inviting me over.

i might be going around hers tonight, but other peeps are going to be around including her sister and all of these are aware she has a boyfriend.So i'm not to sure if i can escalate things.Tips?

P.S Is your book available in paper form?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:14 pm 
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however she keeps mentioning her boyfriend. So this is confusing me. I don't know if shes doing it out of guilt. however she has never declared her love for him,
Guilt? Perhaps, but more accurately she's doing that so that she doesn't feel complete personal responsibility for cheating if you took the initiative and seduced her.

Women do that so they won't bear the full burden of guilt after the cheating takes place. Take it as a green light.
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i might be going around hers tonight, but other peeps are going to be around including her sister and all of these are aware she has a boyfriend.So i'm not to sure if i can escalate things.Tips?
You must be discreet, but it's also an opportunity to ramp up sexual tension big time. Be touchy when no one else is looking, but make it obvious that you're trying to not touch her at all when other people are around.

You can get riskier and touchier as time goes on in this situation, switching back and forth from hot and cold.
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P.S Is your book available in paper form?
Thanks for your interest in my work! However, no, it's only available in digital format. I suppose you could always print it out, though. I've done that before with other ebooks.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:51 am 
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Update #2

So i went round hers that night, and there were four of us. There was no escalation/improvement that night. HB didn't really join in she just watched tv while the rest of us were talking, it was so boring. while i was sitting next to her i was, i was putting in subtle physical contact( like leg on leg),though i don't think the HB was aware of it, HB keeps hitting me when i take the piss out of her or winding her up, which i'm taking as a good sign. Also her sister is into me and apparently telling people that i fancy her, so i was trying to avoid her as much as possible, but its hard because she lives there(which is making it harder for me to get one on ones with the HB). HB keeps winding me up out the whole situation with her sister as well(don't know if its a sign of interest).

So, the next day i pass my driving test and the HB says that we should celebrate. But however she keeps asking me if we should invite our mutual friend, as she did the night before. I don't know if this down to the fact the her sister is now about again (as the sister and our mutual friend have history). or if she doesn't just want me and her to be together.

So i decline and play it cool, saying that i have got things to do. This is the following conversation.
HB: awww gutted, well i'm knackered anyway i'm going to bed soon xx
Dapps: have u got any other days off this week? x
HB We can do Thursday night as i have Friday off xx
Dapps: Good stuff, see you then, its a date ;)
HB: lol will have to drink lots to make up for tonight xx
HB: Best friends date :) :) xx
Dapps: oh so were best friends now r we? x
HB: haha u can share it with Hannah xx
Dapps: night x
HB: night xx

So, i think I've been friend zoned, though i'm not to sure. I think i'm going to ease up on the visits and texts,as i'm getting mixed signals. i think i'm going to get her to do the pursuing. I think if she wants this then she will initiate things, i should be the prize, not her. I think i should start looking at other targets, maybe even ask her to invite over one of her friends.

I'm am i going about this right? is she still interested?

Thanks for the replies so far

Dapps


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