How long should it take to kiss-close a girl (average)



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:51 am 
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I know Mystery says it takes 7 - 9 hours total to fuck-close a girl -- so within that time-frame where should the attraction-comfort zone-seducion zone really begin?

How long on average should it really take to kiss-close a girl? First Date?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:27 pm 
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I think closes are what you end the first meeting with. If you kiss her the 2nd time you see her it's not a close, but in my opinion you definitely should be kissing on the first date, and not to end the night with but early on. I usually do it within the first 30 mins of seeing the girl for drinks (first date).


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:20 pm 
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Interesting .... I always assumed kisses were more of a 2nd or possibly even third date thing. I thought first-dates were possibly too soon. Someone else said the 30 - 60 minute timeframe which you said with regards to a first date, so if other people feel thats a reasonable time I may have to aim for that in future =)


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:33 pm 
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It depends entirely on the relationship between you and the girl. But if you don't kiss by the end of the first date, you've done something wrong. IMO


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:50 am 
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i met a girl on night game and kissed her within 5 minutes, before we'd even spoken. it ended up in a SNL. other times im not so lucky. every scenario and every women is different.

but a second or third date attitude is not a PUA go getter attitude. thats an AFC attitude if you're not creating enough interest by the end of the first date, you're not gaming hard enough.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:16 am 
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SNLs happen on average in under 2 hours. Mystery's method is long dated. Your should kiss close in 30-60 minutes on average. A good drill to practice kissing early is to kiss in first 10 minutes of interaction.

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