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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:52 pm 
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I do not know what i am looking for here. I had one bad, say twelve hours back in late August '08 and I have paid for it every second since. I tried pharmaceuticals, to no avail. I have tried exercise. It works, but only as a coping skill. I have gone through two similar episodes (October '01- May '02, March '02-June '06) which ended on something outside of myself (something a therapist said and something I read in a book, respectively). I likely have some combination of PTSD, OCD and some sort of anxiety disorder. Everything I have tried, has failed. I am considering not even going to my therapist because they have not done anything to help me, though they have not hurt me either. I really want to be done with this. I am ready to move on. I am sick of living with family and putting them through my own mental health issues. I would like to be independent, but I do not know if it is possible. Thank you forum.
Sorry to hear what you're going through, man. All I can recommend is EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique - which you can learn for free (though I suspect you may be better with a trained professional, given the depth of what you're going through).

It's a powerful yet gentle blend of acupressure and NLP (and we know how powerful NLP can be), and it's helped lots of people - including professional athletes - and those with PTSD etc (children exposed to war, school shootings etc). I'd give you a link to a great Telegraph article, but the site won't let me; go to the telegraph newspaper's website, and search for 'tapping therapy Beverley Turner'

Also google Brad Yates for his Youtube videos, and Nick Ortner does a lot of stuff, too.

Good luck, mate.


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I believe you Games. Sympathy really is not it, but I do not really know. I posted it because I wonder what the forum thought. I wondered what ya'll would say. It is big and deep and messy but, I figured there could be kernels of wisdom in the replies. True, I am not content with where I am in life, but so what. All the more excuse to get a move on. I finally found my direction last November in going back to school for Biological Engineering among other things, but that is a big one. In spite of where I am in life, I think it possible to get laid and get a well-paying oilfield job to help finance this next round of undergrad.

You sound like you have Major Depression. When you say you've tried pharmaceuticals, please go into details. Did you stick with one drug for at least like 3 months or however long? You also sound very alone in your struggles, if you go to a Cognitive Behavioral Therapy group session you would talk with other people with similar mental struggles. Exercise alone is not enough, you need a combination of anti-depressants and CBT to change your thought patterns. You'd also need to never be alone to think about your negative thoughts. Join groups/clubs and you say you exercise, so join a running club! Join a mountain-biking club. The key is to focus on the positive aspects of life and not the negative aspects. The way to do this is with of course first- CBT and medication, and then recreation. The point of life is to enjoy it and have fun.

ALSO, The Dalai Lama said that the key to happiness is showing compassion to other people! Try to focus on showing compassion to others and you'll eventually stop thinking negatively about yourself.


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Look the problem is not that I am sad, I believe, but rather, that the sadness occupies the central part in my decision making apparati. I stopped fighting the sadness and have focused on making my brain give up the sadness in its current location. This is genetics, as far as this is how my brain is wire that caused it to capture the overflow of the emotion when it originated some 5.5 years ago. If I get it to leave, than I will be back to normal and healthy. Normally, a person can feel the central part with whatever one would like to fill it with. I do not have this capacity, yet. I will regain it.

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take Xanax pills and drink a little maybe snort some coke go out and talk to a lot of bitches and fuck the shit out of a lot of women then you'll feel awesome or fuck a cute fatty to get your confidence up and get back in the game is all good bro


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To be honest ladies and gentlemen, I believe I what I actually have is an anxiety disorder. It will not stop and though my own behavior does have an impact, it is sort of minimal. The sense of presence that Eckhart Tolle wrote of TPoN, I feel in flashes and they when they do I experience a "Fight or Flight" moment where there is an instantaneous rush of adrenaline. It is my brain/endocrine system is fighting against the feeling that accompanies being totally present, in the moment. It is liberating, refreshing and just AWE-SOME. For nearly six years, my brain/endocrine system has fought it as if it were a disease. The shakes, the twitches, the chronic dis-tractability, the feeling of needing to cry are all this... anxiety, this sense that everything is not alright. This is false and I know that, yet, it is so deep that I barely have had any impact on it. For all that have Approach Anxiety, fear of failure and uncertainty as to their own success, I can tell you truthfully that all of those feelings/emotions are false and untrue. They are figments of the past and our own pain bodies. If we cease identification with them, than the cease to be, period. I have done this already; but, my brain is fickle and continues its unhealthy function.

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There could be a lot of reasons for your pain man.

Get a script for xanax.

Get your hormones tested.

You likely have some sort of psychological disorder. It could be worse.

Keep focused on your goal.


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I do not know what i am looking for here. I had one bad, say twelve hours back in late August '08 and I have paid for it every second since. I tried pharmaceuticals, to no avail. I have tried exercise. It works, but only as a coping skill. I have gone through two similar episodes (October '01- May '02, March '02-June '06) which ended on something outside of myself (something a therapist said and something I read in a book, respectively). I likely have some combination of PTSD, OCD and some sort of anxiety disorder. Everything I have tried, has failed. I am considering not even going to my therapist because they have not done anything to help me, though they have not hurt me either. I really want to be done with this. I am ready to move on. I am sick of living with family and putting them through my own mental health issues. I would like to be independent, but I do not know if it is possible. Thank you forum.

Dude... I am you.

Some time ago I had some negative sexual experiences, and then my OCD made me ruminate and bash myself into to the ground. I have a way with words. Just imagine what MY negative self-talk going 24/7 would be like. The result was PTSD. Emotional trauma. I cried... for days and weeks at a time. Didn't eat (I lost 45 lbs by accident). I didn't sleep more that a couple hours at a time. If I woke up, i simply never went to sleep again. EVERYTHING was stressful, and I never talked to people and I most certainly never considered touching others or allowing them to touch me.

I've come a VERY long way because of PUA. My goal is to find people who had it like me and share what I know.

The things that work for me are mindfulness, and repeatedly traumatizing myself doing approaches. The mental health model of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy states that our thoughts, feeling, and behaviors are tied together: change one, change all. The mental health system focuses on how you thing and feel. There are great exercises and things you must know. But the truth is, I never felt more powerful that the first time I walked up to a girl at starbucks and told her she was pretty and I wanted to say hi. Afterwards, my hands were shaking, I was pouring with sweat, my mind was going a million miles a minute, and I felt great! It was hardest thing I could imagine ME doing, and did it.

You can't control the world, but you can control you. Believe that, and you will have more strength than most people can imagine.

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Get the fuck off of pharmaceuticals. SSRI's will make you kill yourself. I have known 5 people who have killed themselves while taking SSRIs. I was prescribed an SSRI once in college as well, and it DESTROYED my social life and I had suicidal thoughts as well. You have no idea how evil this shit is, it gets in your head and makes suicide the most perfectly logical option. It literally changes who you are as a person and how you think.

Stop seeing the therapist that prescribed them, and taper the dose down until you are off of them, don't just quit abruptly.




Now listen to me. OCD, ADHD, all those other things, they are real disorders. I know. I feel your pain. I have severe ADHD (inattentive type) and my academic performance and irresponsibility absolutely murdered my self esteem. They had me on stimulants, which of course did nothing except cause me to crash in the afternoon, so they gave me SSRIs to counteract that, saying I was depressed and OCD (which were just side effects of the stimulant). I do have ADHD, but all the other stuff I do not have. You know what worked for me? Cognitive therapy. I worked with someone that basically forced me to schedule everything in my day, almost down to when I would take a piss and where. Then, I had to document it and analyze why I failed to either schedule properly or follow my schedule. And it worked. I went from being a D student since I was in kindergarden (not even kidding) to making straight A's in engineering classes. It is the same with dyslexia. Kids with dyslexia don't get better with meds. You know how they get better? They go to a school that doesn't teach math, history, or science. They go to a school where the kid literally sits in the class READING nonstop for his 8 hour day. I mean they practically replace recess with more reading at the successful dysliexia schools.

You have to do the same thing. Quit the meds. Meds are bullshit, they fuck you up and can KILL YOU. Get away from anyone that is telling you to take them. Yell in their face and tell them to fuck themselves if they chase after you trying to write you a prescription. What you need is THERAPY. And by therapy, I am not talking about sitting on a couch and talking. I mean practice, practice, practice at doing whatever it is that you feel handicapped at doing.

It is kind of like my dog. My dog has a messed up inner ear, probably because someone hit her in the head or something before I rescued her. She was falling all over the place dizzy when I first had her. There is no SPAM for it if the underlying cause is not obvious. SO you know what I do? I take her to a state park and make her climb rocks and walk on narrow and steep or uneven muddy paths with massive tree roots sprawling across the place. You know why? Because even though she has a disability, if I give her practice, she will overcome this disability by developing her other senses to cope with her disability. And it fucking works. You can't even tell there is anything wrong with her now, 7 weeks later. Yea, she fell a lot, and it probably hurt like hell for her and it may have even been dangerous, she could have torn something permanently. But ultimately, she can live a normal life now. You have to do the same. You have to climb over rocks and keep your balance without a functional inner ear, so to speak. Get off the meds, get therapy. Real therapy. The painful kind.




Get a thousand bucks together and buy an ergometer (an indoor rower) with a computer and heartrate monitor. Read up on proper form and some good workouts. Use that shit every day. This machine is brutal and it hurts like hell, but if you use it properly every day and lower your trash food intake you will have the body of a fucking god, I don't care what your genes are like. Do some pushups though because it doesn't work your chest at all. This is your replacement for SSRI's. If it doesn't make you feel happier, you aren't rowing hard enough. You should row until you feel like puking, and then row until you actually do puke. Then you will have a big fucking smile on your face and you will be high as a kite on endorphins. Hate yourself? Punish yourself on the rower. Hate someone else? Take your anger out on the rower. Hate your life? Try to row yourself to death.

Also, I have heard great things about a gluten-free diet for people on the autism spectrum. May be worth a try, but you can't half ass it. Even one slip up and it doesn't work. Gluten free isn't easy, don't expect it to be. You can still eat tasty food and pretty much every thing you ate before, it just takes a lot of work to read labels on everything you eat and make sure you aren't getting any gluten, and learning how to replace things in your diet (such as soy sauce, there is a gluten free replacement that actually tastes better, but going to a sushi bar is a bitch because they probably use regular soy sauce in all their sushi). I don't eat gluten free, I eat whatever the fuck I want because I can. But you should try it for a month, see if it works, and if you feel better then decide if you want to keep doing it.





Nothing about yourself will change unless you experience real pain and put in many hours in the process of changing it. This is the hard and unbreakable rule of life. Fixing your problems is never as easy as popping some pills. Sure, medication is helpful in many circumstances (though I STRONGLY dissagree with SSRIs) but a healthy lifestyle is far more helpful and can produce REAL BENEFITS. It just hurts getting there, but that is why it works. I have narcolepsy as well, and I no longer need my medication to simply wake up in the morning, I wake up naturally early in the morning because I am much healthier than before, and I am not even really that healthy.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:05 am 
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i didnt read all the comments.

in my honest opinion, you seem normal. just troubled from the pressure by those around you.

my suggestion is to kick any drugs the doctors give you. you can beat it.

if it helps, see a therapist, if it doesnt help find a new one. if your confident in yourself don't bother.

id also suggest looking for a job if you dont have one already.
working will help you keep any problems you have off your mind. the money helps too..

if you want to be independent your going to need to move out.

want to know why i think your normal? because you want to do things that benefit you in positive ways. and your actually asking for help when no one around you can seem to help you. ive been down this road, its a hard road, and you will know what to do on your own eventually.

you have goals for yourself, see if you can bring them into action. only then will you know if you can do something or not. :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:01 am 
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you can only help yourself bro. no one is going to hand feed you. your not 3 anymore.

i can literally write a 1000 page book about all the problems and suffering i have had in my life. and im sure everyone on this forum could do the same. no body's life is perfect. some get dealt shittier hands then others. thats life. you need to deal with it and move forward. stop thinking about what happened in the past because for one you cant change it and to it doesn't fucking matter.

i have a bad case of overthinking myself. best way to get rid of that is to be productive. ever try skateboarding? join a gaming community online. GET A JOB. read a book, or even a comic.. find a hobby. buy a cheap camera and go take some pictures. draw, even if you suck at it. write some song lyrics. write a story. write some jokes. play basketball. color . just do something.

even if you do these things 20 minutes a day its still better then doing nothing, and i bet you will feel better about yourself for actually doing it.

if your going to think, think about your future, think about your dreams, motivate yourself. what have you always wanted to be when you were growing up, focus on bringing that dream into reality.

spend more time with your family, you live at home right? dont be a shut out, converse with them, watch a movie or tv show they are watching, help around the house. im not saying do this all the time, just when you feel like it.

hope this helps for you, and anybody else in a similar situation

deleted a few lines here because i thought it was irrelevant to this situation.

heres a question for you, hows your relationship with your family? you mentioned you dont want to bother them with your problems.


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Slie, that's totally understandable. You get thrown out of bars by surprise and don't know what to expect out of people. You didn't even go into detail about the job-related stuff. There are a lot of crap chiropractors and therapists and phrenologists or whatever these days. That's not to say that there aren't good therapists who can't help you sort yourself out. Most people have seen a therapist at some point in their life. It's not even a big deal: in fact, in places like South America, people will go into detail about their therapy session in just their every day conversations.

I think once you're more socially aware (and you'll get there), you can eventually enter the workforce again, doing something that you're gifted at. I'm sure that whatever shortcomings you have, you must at least have a talent or two. :)

I've struggled with some anxiety in the past, and I found that the medicine actually made things worse. Just make sure that you're getting a good diet and exercise, and don't consume a lot of caffeine! Also, take things very slowly and take-on very little. The less the better. If you're going from unemployed virgin dude to dude who's sleeping with 100 women at once in the same year and working long hours at his new job and has Aspergers, that's going to be a shock to your system. There's nothing wrong with the way you are right now. Just take your time and screw the haters and naysayers and you'll be just fine.

Another thought: anxiety, depression, and bipolar are all mental illnesses, meaning that you can recover from them (although you might be more prone to these illnesses). Remember to take care of yourself first. :)


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Get the fuck off of pharmaceuticals. SSRI's will make you kill yourself. I have known 5 people who have killed themselves while taking SSRIs. I was prescribed an SSRI once in college as well, and it DESTROYED my social life and I had suicidal thoughts as well. You have no idea how evil this shit is, it gets in your head and makes suicide the most perfectly logical option. It literally changes who you are as a person and how you think.
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