Is there anyone else out there who feels this way? Girls always make it their mission in life to dump their baggage on you as obstacles in the proving grounds for simply being good enough to talk to them. I don't have the patience nor the eagerness to sift through their endless trust issues, and, you know, i got my own. They're manageable enough if i wasn't expected to be a mind reader all the damn time. But, you know, all i wanna do is fucking get laid, not have to exploit insecurities or cold read or memorize what lines work and when, on which type of girl, in which type of situation, and have a target painted on my ego until i can disarm hers. Pickup is a social fucking minefield, placed around the refrigerator. And sex, while satisfying and nourishing, is not worth blowing my damn leg off to get it.

Ever just try having fun with it, and not giving a shit about the outcome?

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

If you're seeing it as a job, you're maybe doing it wrong...

You should be doing it to entertain yourself, and better yourself and your life.

So you want to get laid, but really wanna do it without interacting with women or using your brain?

Go get a hooker.

This stuff isn't that hard, but yeah, no matter what avenue you take you will have to change something. Whether you focus on working out, rebooting your style, memorizing and practicing a physical escalation ladder, or learning verbal techniques (or all that), it is some work. But it's worth it.

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These hos ain't loyal

maybe your just tryin to hard

The hard work is improving yourself. The fun and easy part is actually going out and picking up women.

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Nothing in life that is worth having comes easy. Things of value are almost always more rare than things of lesser value.

If getting laid was easy, we wouldn't be here, we'd be on some other forum trying to better some other part of our life. But it's worth it. Of course, the first steps are hard, but once you get into PUA you do it automatically. You don't have to memorize lines anymore or act like an alpha, because you make your own and ARE an alpha naturally.

Also, you're not alone. Like someone else said, around 90% of men are AFCs. You're displaying AFC behaviour right now. If PUA is nothing for you, maybe just be yourself and try finding your girl like this. It will probably be the love of your life, but you will have to go through hundreds of rejections you could have avoided.

You know a bad attitude will cock-block you worse then a fat ass DUFF in the club. Learn to have a good attitude. Your attitude creates your vibe and your vibe is the energy you put out when in public.

You seem pissed off by the whole thing, anger can literally ruin your night or day while out gaming. You make a couple approaches, get blown out and then become angry. Guess how the rest of your approaches are going to go? SHITTY!

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

FYI, I presently suck at pick up... well, I have no problem approaching / meeting women and getting dates, but I absolutely suck at closing.

I was seriously pissed for about a week about losing a couple of serious hotties, but I am over it.

My main takeaway... learn to enjoy the moment you're in. If you're not enjoying the whole process (I was definitely enjoying my time with the women), then you probably shouldn't be doing it at all.

with that note, might i suggest reading some of the natural game topics on this board.

i dont like to force words or anything like that. it would make me seem fake even if they buy it, its just not who i am. im more of a natural type pua. natural pua requires more balls then logic or looking for signs or w.e. same outcome with out the script. food for thought

summarizing it. natural pua is WANTING to do something vs Having to do something. for example if i want to touch a girl's hand ill fucking do it (the balls). Having to touch the girls hand because it will do this or that is not the type of mindset i OR you want. Dont think of the outcome, just do it.

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I think you have something to work with technique wise. If instead of trying to please them and their 'bullshit'.
Build your game around being non reactional. By that, be yourself, like in your post and they either take it or leave it. If you can keep your 'frame' non reactional, you can have ALOT of fun in this.

One thing I notice repeatedly in the game. Is guys taking material that is not congruent with their personality and apply it. Find guru's and techniques that match your personality. To me your personality and game should be built around non reaction, 'bad boy', take it or leave it personality. If you learn how to do it right. You should clean up and have fun doing it. Doing it wrong...it'll seem like a lot of work.

IMO you might be a bit too studied up when it comes to game materials. Try forgetting a good amount of the techniques and strategies and to keep it natural, have an edge, go out and just have normal relaxed flirty fun convos with girls and see where it goes. They want it as much as we do.

someone said something about closing... This helped me...

Location is correct, timing is not perfect, but you have to do something soon.....
"Do you want to kiss me?"

works 90% (obviously depends on situation and whatnot)

If you think she wants to she probably does. If she says yes, good if she says no, say "whats your moms number i hear she wants to kiss me"

She will then want to kiss you because youre funny as hell

Also, after the first "date" or whatever you want to call it always give her a goodnight kiss.

If she doesn't want to kiss you stop trying. If she does, youre one step closer to fucking her.

I'm just going to assume you're talking about a SNL and not something that actually takes time since you seem to have no patience developed yet.
One of the main problems I always see with beginner/less experienced guys that just want laid is you're going out too goddamn early or trying to close a chick that just walked in/hasn't been there long enough to get a "full night" experience. Unless you're a Jedi fucking master, there's not too many women that are going to decide to leave with a guy if she just left her house a half hour ago and took 3hrs to get ready. Unless she's just looking to laid too.
Go out a lil later in the night; you don't need a full 4-5hrs, especially in the same damn place. If you wanna go early and get warmed up, bounce around the venues. If you see something you like early on, open up, but DON'T try to close; leave and come back later, if she's still there, great. Better yet, invite her to come with you to the next place.
The longer you spend talking to the same girl all night, the more the chances of you saying something fucking stupid or becoming annoying. If you can't stand to be with yourself for an hour, wtf would she want to listen to you for 2 or 3 when you have no confidence and acting like a lame duck , especially if she's out with friends. The chances are there's at least 5 guys that tried the same damn thing throughout the night with no luck. You might just come around and be the breathe of fresh air she's been looking for, or the cherry on top, but you gotta believe it.
Bottom line is, she's not gonna leave till she's ready, and if she leaves with a guy, it'll be the last one she talks to.
Now if you have a lil more patience and you're not fucking boring, then by all means there's nothing wrong with conversation in like a bar setting; shit doesn't work too well in a loud ass club.