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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:27 pm 
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Hi! So I have this weird problem I faced a couple of times in the past. I go to a club, find a cute girl, talk to her, dance with her, isolate, and KC without much problem. However, when it’s time to bring them back home, there is always something stopping the girl from coming back to my place (I will include an interaction I had with a girl a few days ago as an example below).

When you’re in the club and it’s time to leave with the girl, what’s the best way to do it? Do you simply ask them to come to go to your place, or their place? Do you suggest having a drink at yours? Do you use the famous “There’s this amazing (insert cool object here) that I need to show you!”? What’s your strategy?

Here’s an example from last week feel free to just skip this:

From time to time I go to this club where there are many young girls (18-22), mostly college girls. I like I because it is 5 minutes away from my apartment and it’s pretty easy to find cute girls there.

So while I was waiting in line, I spotted these two HB7.5 and HB8 French girls. Although I should have talked to them, I didn’t really give them any attention. At some point during the night I saw them again but they were going outside for a smoke. As soon as they came back, I approached them and HB7.5 started talking with some random guy, leaving me alone with my target. After a short conversation (what are you studying, where are you from, etc.) we started dancing and eventually started making out. At one point, she wanted to go for a smoke again and I followed her. I thought it was pretty weak that I was following her but it turned out she was very happy to have someone to smoke with. We went back inside and danced for a while.

Then, I got super lucky. HB7.5 came back from nowhere telling us that she was going home and told HB8 to stay and have fun (around 2:00 am). At this point, I really though all I had to do was go home and fuck her. And then comes the part that confuses me. This was around 2:30 am (bar closes at 3:00 am). I don’t remember what I said but it was probably something simple such as “Do you wanna go?”. So we go outside, talk for a bit and then she took me to a dark corner (to hide from the rain) and starts making out with me. I think I told her something like

Me: Do you want to go somewhere else? Let’s go have a beer at my place.
Her: I can’t. I need to wake up early tomorrow (she had a plane to take)
Me: At what time do you need to wake up?
Her: Around 9:am
Me: This is not early! I’m probably going to wake up at 8:30 tomorrow.

At this point it was probably already lost. All that was left was trying to convince her to come with me and it shouldn’t be that way. There are obviously things I could have done differently before that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:27 pm 
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Build more comfort.

Bounce to another bar alone with her earlier. Take her by her little hand and LEAD her there. This builds comfort/trust being alone with you, and extends the experience. If she doesn't feel safe with you at another bar, she sure as fuck won’t feel safe enough to go to your place.

She needs that- however small -, sense of security, that your not a crazed serial killer.

When you take her to the bar, hold her hand or put your arm around her shoulder like you've been together for a long time. Immediately order a shot and do it with her. Toast the good time your having, “You are my girl tonight!” kiss her immediately after the shot.

Then "We should run by my place for just a second, I want to show you my Lord of the Rings collection." Or some such bullshit.

Then lead her to the kitchen by her little hand again, make that drink soon as you walk in.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:26 pm 
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Convince her by turning her on so much she can't possibly say no. More making out, feeling her up and dry humping. If she's up for it whip your dick out and let her suck it or take hold of it. Then just tell her to go back with you. "Come on, lets go back to mine." Hold her hand and lead her.

Less talk more touching!


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As Jablowme said, you need more investment and compliance. You should progressively build up to it. You should have timebridged to your place already and you should have also worked on Qualifying her to build her investment in you, so when you try to bounce it is not anymore of a compliance request.

More isolation and movement make a bounce no big of a deal.

It sounds like you can build Attraction and Rapport well, I would suggest trying to leverage it into big Qualifying questions and movement as soon as possible rather than waiting. That should pay off.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:10 pm 
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All these dudes raise great points, but sometimes depending on the situation - there's not much else you can do. She was probably never going home with you because she genuinely wanted to be up early the morning!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:38 am 
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Good points guys. When I go on a date, I try my best to move to different places to build more comfort and give the impression that we spent more time together than we did in reality. However, in night game situations, it sounds a bit odd to leave a bar to go to another bar which is why I'm not 100% sure this is the solution. Comfort may still be the problem tho.

Another thing I realized is that I don't always offer plausible deniability. I think one of the things I should focus on during a conversation is to find a reason for a girl to come with me. Use something she mentioned that I "absolutely need to show her" so has a reason (a stupid one that is lol) to justify following me to my place.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:41 pm 
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As Jablowme said, you need more investment and compliance. You should progressively build up to it. You should have timebridged to your place already and you should have also worked on Qualifying her to build her investment in you, so when you try to bounce it is not anymore of a compliance request.

More isolation and movement make a bounce no big of a deal.

It sounds like you can build Attraction and Rapport well, I would suggest trying to leverage it into big Qualifying questions and movement as soon as possible rather than waiting. That should pay off.

Ya these are definetly worth to do.

Between you can try not kissing her at the club/ bar, kissing her will only assure her about what's going to happen when she go home with you.

Then this will depend on if that girl wanted to sleep with you that night. Sometimes even if she really want to sleep with you but she scare she will look like a slut to you, she might refuse to go home with you.

So as always I will not kiss a girl at bar/ club..whereever we meet, I will keep her guessing, anticipate what's going to happen and lead her to my place.

This way when sex happen, she can talk to her friend like 'it's just happen'.

Hope this help
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:38 am 
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Why would a girl want to go back to your place when she doesn't even fucking know you? What part of that do you stupid cunts not get? It's like because you fucking talked to her, showed her your moves she's an easy lay. Christ. What the fuck is wrong with you dudes. Why not go to a fucking prostitute if you're so desperate. It's like y'all think you're entitled to have any girl you like cos you fucking talked to her or made out with her so I'm da bomb and she's gonna want to fuck me. PMSL. Most girls aren't as fucking easy as you brain dead fuckwits.

Would you tell your sister yeh go back to that fucking strange dude's place that you don't even fucking know and hope he isn't gonna fucking rape you or is a fucking weirdo. Such fucking assholes on here. Take her by her little hand and LEAD her to another bar. She's not a fucking, helpless, little puppy for Christ's sake. You dudes really have no fucking clue. Just a load of entitled fucking jerks.


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:lol: ^^^


So basically comfort and getting to know is the key, explained in an angry rant above
If all you are after is a one night stand that is. But how much of an emotional level you can connect on in the first night is a completely different ball game. I reckon try stay sober for that!

Besides that I'd personally just try and keep in contact with them and meet up another time. Probably do you more good than bad by not trying to pursue her the first night.


But back on to sleazy one night tactics... A friend and I was on holiday when we met these 2 girls and I suggested "Oh you guys need to meet Jim, he's like one of the Inbetweeners..."

Got back to hotel, no answer at his door.... Aww he must be asleep.. We'll just go our room :lol:


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As Jablowme said, you need more investment and compliance. You should progressively build up to it. You should have timebridged to your place already and you should have also worked on Qualifying her to build her investment in you, so when you try to bounce it is not anymore of a compliance request.

More isolation and movement make a bounce no big of a deal.

It sounds like you can build Attraction and Rapport well, I would suggest trying to leverage it into big Qualifying questions and movement as soon as possible rather than waiting. That should pay off.

Ya these are definetly worth to do.

Between you can try not kissing her at the club/ bar, kissing her will only assure her about what's going to happen when she go home with you.

Then this will depend on if that girl wanted to sleep with you that night. Sometimes even if she really want to sleep with you but she scare she will look like a slut to you, she might refuse to go home with you.

So as always I will not kiss a girl at bar/ club..whereever we meet, I will keep her guessing, anticipate what's going to happen and lead her to my place.

This way when sex happen, she can talk to her friend like 'it's just happen'.

Hope this help
Naughty Napoleon
Girls are only scared of looking like a slut when they're around people they know or if you're an old friend. The reason most girls go clubbing is to find a guy, even if they're not 100% sure about it. And unless the girl is a virgin she's most likely open for sex, and turning her on before taking her to your place would be what she wants.


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For me..

The big clue is when her friend leaves you both to it, that's the biggest ioi in my opinion and you take her verbal token resistance with a pinch of salt

Whenever you get some token , just makeout and turn her on.

From my experience, the longer you spend together, the harder it is for the SNL (I know, probably clashes with your experience) but that's how things are for me.

Sometimes you can't do anything, sometimes it's great to get the phone number and then work the Booticall and let her get back to you when is good and ready

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