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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:19 am 
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Hey guys, had an interesting thought and I wanted your feedback. I primarily do online game only and I don't do cold approach (for the time being). This is all I've mainly done. And from online game, you encounter lots of different girls, they're sorta on there for a reason. Some are socially unexperienced, some are TOO serious, robotic & overly analytical and can't tell if I'm joking or serious which it's obvious that I am. Heck, some even have anxiety and stuff.

So the worse kind is the too serious type girl, I just got off the phone with one and it went ok I think I just acted a bit nerdy, not as confident or didn't talk to her as a man or tease enough. But overall I think I did good, I made her laugh and she told me when she's free to hang out. But at times, we didn't connect cause she didn't get my sense of humor or she wasn't talkative. Yet, I'll talk to another girl that does get my humor and is really talkative and it brings out an AMAZING pua in me.

So I'm sorta' hard on myself and I beat myself a lot thinking I did bad and messed up but really I'm thinking, what if it's the girls fault (since I'm talking to online girls) and it has nothing to do with me, my personality or attractiveness. What do you think?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:32 am 
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Nah, it's you bro. You're terrible and you should lose all hope in the world.


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What is there to "blame" for?

Some girls will get your jokes, some will have a different sense of humor, some will be trolls, some will be messed up, some may be looking for something else. It's not a blame thing.

PS- side rant. Majick or someone wrote a post about staying out till 6 and I agree because it's a good ideology. Do what you have to do, no excuses. If you have time and resources for online dating, you can do cold approach. If you have time for approaches, you can cold approach. If you have women online in your area, there are women in your area. If you have money and a car to go on a date, you can get your ass to a bar/club or wherever.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:10 am 
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Thanks for your response guys.
Here's my point, I could game perfect, be myself, be funny & etc but not get the girl because she's too serious. (YES, there is such a thing as an overly serious girl.) And I'll think it's my attractiveness, my personality but in reality it's her own social inexperience & lameness.

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So I just had an interaction with a girl online and I basically ended it by saying "hey it's been nice talking to you, but i'm not feeling this."

I wouldn't necessarily blame the girl, but I'm not interested in women who aren't interested in me lol. Does that make sense? I want to talk to girls that are fun to talk to, confident in themselves, and interested in me. I simply don't have time to talk to a bunch of girls that aren't really into me.


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I have a dry whit about me. I'll often use humour to break the ice with a girl.

If she's not getting it, guess what...I'm not interested. So, in a very real sense my brand of humor is a qualifier AND a DHV (to the RIGHT women - the ones I want to be involved with). If she's not getting it, or into it, it's not a DLV in my mind since she's somebody I wouldn't be interested in anyway.

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Why is there "blame" in the first place?
No one attracts everyone.

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This goes along the lines of "pleasing everyone". Have you ever heard that you cannot please everyone, no matter how hard you try. I mean sure, you can certainly try, but in reality, some people will not like you and you have to be okay with that.

You can't game every girl and have success. If you find a dud, then let it be a dud and don't force it to become something more. I have gamed lots of girls who I found were boring, not funny, and overall complained about every little thing. I WAS NOT going to waste my time and try to mold her into something I wanted...who has that amount of time. If I click with other chicks, then that is where I will focus my energy on.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:59 am 
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Why is there "blame" in the first place?
No one attracts everyone.

"It's never the guys fault" as Style would say, and it makes a lot of sense because if you are good enough in your speechcraft, you can sell a salt shaker 50 bucks

And though it may be true that "No one attracts everyone" you can still surprise yourself and hey why not try for it anyway

I one time was with a girl who said she didn't like beards (which i have one) and only like latinos (which i am not), she still wanted it.

so basically: just go for it without blame... and get out some more.

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It takes two to tango. Some girls are not attracted to you, and you are not attracted to all girls. Stick with the girl who takes that amazing PUA out of you, and ignore the others. You have chemistry with that girl, not the others. Note that this is a learning process where you learn things about yourself. You learn what you want from girls, and to make demands. If you find a girl boring (too serious), ditch her!

When I was new in the game, I recall feeling the same way as you do now. I felt like "it's always my fault if I don't get the girl", as if I did something wrong. And it came from stupid things Mystery and others once said - that you can only blame yourself if you don't succeed. Combine that with the false claim that some "gurus" make (Mystery included) that they can get any girl they want, and you have some true poison for your mind, making you feel bad about yourself. Because if you can't match their claimed and impossible "success rate" you will always think there's something wrong with you, as if you have not yet mastered the game. It's all about rhetorics, skillfully used by RSD among others, to make you feel bad about youself, like you need their help, so that you want to pay for their "divine knowledge" (it's their business after all).

My tip to you is to learn the NLP technique "pacing and leading", so you learn about building rapport. When that's done, pay attention to how incongruent you become if you try to pace with someone who is a complete mismatch to you. Remember how important it is to be congruent in game! This will give you insight in the importance of having chemistry from the very beginning with a girl in order to attract and become attracted. Good luck!


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PS- side rant. Majick or someone wrote a post about staying out till 6 and I agree because it's a good ideology. Do what you have to do, no excuses. If you have time and resources for online dating, you can do cold approach. If you have time for approaches, you can cold approach. If you have women online in your area, there are women in your area. If you have money and a car to go on a date, you can get your ass to a bar/club or wherever.
Mind explaining this a bit? Are you/majick just saying stay out till 6pm and game as much as you can until then rather than leaving after you feel you're done?


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Thanks for everyone's reply. Haven't been on lately. All I'm saying is, is it ok to not be hard on myself for the way the interaction went. Realistically, I believe the girl messes up to by (in this case) being boring and not being fun. It's not about hating the girl or blaming her, rather realizing that the interaction didn't go bad because of my looks or personality but because she didn't get me or was socially awkward. All I'm saying is that there are two sides to the story. Am I correct?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:23 am 
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Thanks for everyone's reply. Haven't been on lately. All I'm saying is, is it ok to not be hard on myself for the way the interaction went. Realistically, I believe the girl messes up to by (in this case) being boring and not being fun. It's not about hating the girl or blaming her, rather realizing that the interaction didn't go bad because of my looks or personality but because she didn't get me or was socially awkward. All I'm saying is that there are two sides to the story. Am I correct?
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Thanks for everyone's reply. Haven't been on lately. All I'm saying is, is it ok to not be hard on myself for the way the interaction went. Realistically, I believe the girl messes up to by (in this case) being boring and not being fun. It's not about hating the girl or blaming her, rather realizing that the interaction didn't go bad because of my looks or personality but because she didn't get me or was socially awkward. All I'm saying is that there are two sides to the story. Am I correct?
Yes dude, even you have improve yourself to a great extent, that's still some girls are not attracted to you (not only online but cold approach too).

So like you say don't take it so hard on yourself but at the same time do improving yourself and ask yourself how you can do better?

Different girl need different strategy or you can keep looking for the girl that like what you do (the one who click with you).

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