Vulnerability in attraction?



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:01 am 
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I think most people will agree that somethings in pick up just can't be explained easily. Everything on here, all the (good) advice on the internet are just things that have been tried and tested and proven to increase your chances of a lay or a number. If a girl is attracted enough to you, excluding a massive melt down, it doesn't matter too much what you do.

So i've seen numerous people in friendships go on to have close relationships (never best friends though) whereas most pick up advice will tell you that the longer you are into a friendship, the less likely it is that you will end up in a sexual relationship. Likewise, we've all seen pretty hot girls, with guys that don't have much game. And at the place where I work, a lot of the employees in my office, met their significant other in the office, so even after spending hours, and hours, and hours of time together in a non romantic SPAM (where no one, even the greatest PUAs could stay in their best state for such long periods of time) people still hooked up.

A lot of these examples go against conventional advice/intuition, which got me to thinking. Do you think in these examples, where you're spending a lot of time with people, its allowing yourself to be vulnerable around them that actually increases the attraction they have towards you? I know vulnerability is one of the areas that is being given increasing importance in PUA, and you're not going to be able to have a proper long term relationship without allowing yourself to be vulnerable.

What do you guys think? Are there any alternative explanations for the relationships I have described?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:32 pm 
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If you have read The Art of Seduction you will know that spending a lot of time with someone is one way to seduce that person. If that's due to people showing themselves vulnerable or not is beyond my knowledge. I do know however, that showing yourself vulnerable is also a way to seduce someone (but I don't think the book mentions that). :)


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For what it is worth, in clinical studies of liking and attraction, their is one 'vulnerability' study. This is the Pratfall Effect. More or less, if you appear 'perfect' and make a mistake, you appear more attractive.

The way I do it, is I judge it by how attainable I am to the girl. If I run an attraction set too long and am pinging for Qualification and she is overwhelmed I will make a mistake or do what I call a SoV, or statement of vulnerability. It is just a statement to show you are not perfect.

In practice it works. One example is with my current GF I intentionally knocked the coals off a hookah onto the floor, and I said a SoV, "Sometimes I get clumsy around girls I am attracted too". She opened up a lot after that SoV and she was a lot more amiable to Game.

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For what it is worth, in clinical studies of liking and attraction, their is one 'vulnerability' study. This is the Pratfall Effect. More or less, if you appear 'perfect' and make a mistake, you appear more attractive.

The way I do it, is I judge it by how attainable I am to the girl. If I run an attraction set too long and am pinging for Qualification and she is overwhelmed I will make a mistake or do what I call a SoV, or statement of vulnerability. It is just a statement to show you are not perfect.

In practice it works. One example is with my current GF I intentionally knocked the coals off a hookah onto the floor, and I said a SoV, "Sometimes I get clumsy around girls I am attracted too". She opened up a lot after that SoV and she was a lot more amiable to Game.

He is right; i have also had a girl tell me "When a man becomes vulnerable to me i become much more attracted to him", Take physical vulnerability for example, when you bite or nibble on a girls neck it turns them on soooo much, this is because she is exposing herself to you and the fact that she can TRUST you in her state of weakness.

Physical and Mental, through my escapades of Pick-Up, seem to go very much hand-and-hand with one another.

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If you have read The Art of Seduction you will know that spending a lot of time with someone is one way to seduce that person. If that's due to people showing themselves vulnerable or not is beyond my knowledge. I do know however, that showing yourself vulnerable is also a way to seduce someone (but I don't think the book mentions that). :)
The Art of Seduction covers "selective honesty". This is basically something you share with someone to disarm them, prove vulnerability, in exchange for the same.


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