This will not be the shortest "FR" ever, but i love analyzing and seduction and this event i'm about to write about is very new for me. That is why i like to put in a lot of details. If it's TLDR i understand perfectly...


Im 25 years old. I started to study seduction at 19, been on and off trough the years and had a few girlfriends. Broke up with latest ex 6 months ago and since my game has been crazy. I have been putting the last 4 years (in a LTR) to just fix my lifestyle. I have started my own company, make lots of money, have great social skills, cool friends, nice appartment and a tight and pretty natural game. To keep it simple, i got my shit together since lately and that has resulted in some amazing results with women. I have a kind of natural game, almost no routines, cocky, high social value and great conversation skills with some good knowledge of escalation mixed together.

Anyway, enough about me.

I met this cute and funny girl at a party 2 weeks ago. We chatted for about 10 min, she was obviously interested and i took her number. A week later we meet up. We have a great time, great vibe and fun conversations with some flirting and kino. We have a few beers, shes gives away plenty of IOIs but i still withheld with going for the kiss until she suddenly has to leave. Fair enough i think, i don't make a big deal of it and she says she wants to meet up again.

A few days later i text her and tells her that i'm free tuesday if she wanted the coffe i owed her. She's on and we meet up for a coffe and a beer. We have yet again a great vibe, we are flirting and things run really smooth. The only problem here might been that i had almost "to much" lifestyle value and sometime it felt like she felt she wouldn't have a chance with me in some weird way..

Anyway, we go up to my apartment to have another beer. No hesitation. Everything is nice, we start to cook some dinner and listen to music. We eat, watching some series, she cuddles up to me and we start to make out on the sofa. She is really into it and there was no withholding from her side. We make out, i stop, tease her, we make out again and so it keeps going for a few minutes. Then suddenly, when i stopped kissing her again, she has to leave. No explanation, just "it's late" and it really wasn't that late. I'm not going to start wining about it but i do think it's kind of weird and some part of me wants an explanation. I ask if there is something weird going on that i'm missing out on (like anything, bf, she's lesbian, has a son, whatever) but she just says "no why should it?" and smiles and we kisses once again before she leaves in a hurry.

This is something i'm not used to at all. Like, i'm not sure i even like her that much but this really started to get me interested.. i just needed to figure out what was going on.

Like, if she doesn't like me she can just tell me, and should not have been following me home and start making out with me. It was so obvious that it was going to happen all the time, that i was almost sure we were going to sleep together, based on all other times i've been in this situation.

If she is interested, then why leave all of the sudden? Sure i can understand if she doesn't want to sleep with me the second time we meet, but just leaving without a word or explanation?

The third alternative, this sort of felt like the most realistic for some reason. That i projected to much value and maybe created kind of a "player image" or impossible to get. It's nothing i can do a lot about either, i got a pretty cool life and she asked a lot about it. Im also pretty sure she understod that i dated other girls.

So i decided that i was going to make a move. Because if she actually wasn't interested, then its fine and if that is the case i'll not spend another minute thinking about this girl.

But in the case that she actually was interested, i didn't wan't to waste to much time if she just was very shy and not sure of what she wanted. That can just be more struggle then it's worth.

I was so confused i couldn't play it cool anymore. I had to find out wtf she wanted with me, and that fast.

So i did one of my stupidest moves in a loong time. It's so stupid that i think i might have turned an very interested girl into not wanting to see me anymore. This kind of things are one of the biggest DONT'S regarding dating and seduction.

The reason i write this here even tough i have been out of the "internet scene" for almost 3 years, is that i just needed some other thoughts on this one. Because this behavior is kind of new for me, either the girls are not interested, or they are and we have sex..

I'm also very interested in social dynamics and even if i'll never talk to her again, it is fun to hear other peoples thoughts on this..

So i sent her a text. The very next day.

For some reason i was sure that i had overqualified myself to her. I can be pretty cocky sometimes, and this was kind of a geeky girl who never had a boyfriend. So i thought i was going to "play it cool", "stop playing games" to build comfort and show her that i just don't want to fuck her once and never see her again. Also i wanted to test her and see if she really was interested or not. And the way i do this in is just so retarded. I text her "I enjoy hanging out with you. if you wanna hang out and kill the hangover tomorrow with some ice cream and breaking bad im totally in for it."

... Please tell me this is not as bad as i think?

The second i sent it i realized how bad it was, but i couldn't take it back.. I meet this interesting, smart and funny girl that is obviously interested in me and i fucking choke. I have met her two freaking times and i text her "i enjoy hanging out with you". and ask her to meet me tomorrow. I did not mean it nearly in the way that it sounds, it just somehow made sense at first. The worst thing is i'm not even sure that i like this girl! I only met her two times. I tried to build comfort in a really weird way....Almost no matter what the case was with her before, this was surely going to freak her out.

So, she answers "hi! no, im busy thursday. have a nice day at work!"

This feels kind of game over for me. The fact that we did have a pretty freaking good time together, and she seemed very interested still got me thinking. Is there anything i can do in this situation? that does not make me look weird and freaks her out? Try to explain will probably make it even weirder lol. Were my text so bad as i think it was? Should i just let it be and put the focus back on the other three girls i'm sleeping with SPAM? Im very confused here. She is kind of cool and that is why i still haven't dropped this one just yet.

I mean IF she was as interested as she seemed, can a text message like this kill all the attraction?

Probably i'll just leave this girl be a good memory and a great lesson..


Give me some thoughts.