Hey guys!

There's this girl from my university course who is so far interested that she frequently starts conversations and reinitates them. Well, they are about university, but that just seems to be because she can't think of another topic. How do I know? She needed a new car and texted me three days long how hard she thought it was to find a good new one quickly and when she got it she texted me pictures of it and was very keen to get me to like that car. But I didn't and teased her that that was a macho's car, which naggs on her nerves since than . And to test it I often ignore parts of texts like: "Do you go to the exam tomorrow? Do you have the solutions for..." I ignored the solutions part and just reponded to the first part. She never brought it up again. Which caused a constant reinitiation of her with questions concerning me if I have learned much yet etc.

So to the problem. If we are out together there are two cases I couldn't combine:
Either: I get deep conversations and kino with her, but can't isolate (not that she rejects me, I just don't do it, I don't know why)
Or: I get her alone on the of the party etc. at our cars, but the k-close doesn't seem appropriate, because there's this kind of pressure AND there wasn't an escalation beforehand.

In both cases she does accept the both-cheek-kiss-goodbye though.

I think it's all in my head. I think I have to isolate though, because she gives a big damn about what the other colleagues think about her. If we are out with her friends, I think she would be more open. Could be another limiting belief though.

So since I can't put the finger on it: What in my mindset is holding me back? How can I reframe appropriately?

"Let's go for a drink sometime, what is your schedule look like?"

If she makes an excuse, and beats around the bush. Just ignore her.

It's a little difficult to tell if you're in the friend zone.

If she likes you, she will go for a drink with you where you can then escalate/kiss and to stop talking about crappy subjects like cars and school.

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So you mean an one on one meet up? Or would a isolation to the bar away from the others have the same effect?

It's difficult? What makes you think I am in the friendzone and what doesn't?

I don't start this topics though. She does. I just text to get some comfort/attraction before telling her that we are out for drinks and she should come along.

Do you plan to have sex with her too?

Or Are her friends going to be in the bedroom too? Lol , To be honest dude, it sounds like you're nervous to even go for isolation or to even game her face to face for that matter.

Yes, get her one on one with you, her answer to this request will reveal if she is attracted to you or not.

You are clearly beating around the bush and using the social gathering group as an excuse to see her.

You're in danger of Friend zone if you haven't already put yourself there already

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Yeah, I think that I am nervous, too.


If she says no etc. that shouldn't be the end but then I just have the phone and the social gatherings to build more attraction?


To friendzone: But for friends it shouldn't be a problem to be face to face? So if she says no it's not necessarily a sign of friendzone?

Sorry for so many questions but in the future I don't want to have to post a thread for every girl I get the same problem with

"I would like to get to know you better, would you be for a drink with me on bla bla"

You're telling you want to date her. The magic here, is that this filters girls that are interested from disinterested.

So it's either gonna be a:
1) "yes"
2) "no"
3) "yes, but as friends"

If she says #1 then you're good. #2/3 are bad.

Stop being a bitch about it and just man up.

You keep saying you text her and ' build attraction '. But yet are petrified to do it to her face

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You're right thanks.

One (hopefully) last thing. What's the right thing to do if she comes along with opening conversations like that about her car? Ignoring her completely until I arrange the meet up will show her that something's off, or am i wrong on this?

"Boring"

Then ask her something that you want to talk about or ask about her. (Her passions etc)

Come on pal, next minute you're gonna ask me to fuck her for you..

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Ok thx.
No but if i knew that for sure I wouldn't be on here

Classic gem right there.

What is it about women that put so many pussy ass men into a perpetual state of fear?

Why be afraid of what a woman will say? Those who attracted to you will react positively! And those who don’t aren't fucking worth your time and effort anyway.

She's not looking for a pussy, she already has one.

Follow Pebble's advice.

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Yeh that's right dude. Those women who don't fancy you aren't fucking worth it. You guys fucking crack me up. And @Tow you've made the classic mistake of being someone you're not and you're now shitting yourself over her because you've tied your stupid, fucking brain in knots playing dumb ass mind games with her. God you dudes on here are pathetic.

Dude, you have to be a little less nervous about it. There are several flaws in EVERY answer in this thread (though the part about just acting is important!)
Don't ask her if she MIGHT WANT to get to know you better or GO OUT with you SOME TIME.

Tell her that you NEED to know her better and she HAS TO come to YOUR PLACE TOMORROW at 10 a.m. to watch an extremely bad (but specific!) movie with you, and she needs to just waer sweatpants and a t-shirt, cause that's what you're going to wear.
All the vague suggestions will get you nowhere - and you have to be the man in this relationship from the start. If she doesn't like any one of the things you suggest (the day, time, movie, etc. ), change it to suit her needs. If you can't seem to do so in about 3 attempts, she's making excuses and she's not into you - but you'll have lost nothing.
And this is not about bekng macho or anything like that. It's about initiative. Be funny about it.
Good luck mate.

Oh yeah, and you might be in the friendzone. That's not definitive. You can change that. You actually just might do so, be followibg the tips i just provided.

I will say you probably worry your relationship with her will change after you sleep with her.

YOu are too satisfied with affection you get from her. I have many friends have this kind of problem, and when I told them to sleep with girls first, they come out with all the excuse...

Do know deeply that your relationship will only get better with her after you sleep with her, much better, I will say.

You both will become more honest to each other & the conversation...awesome!

Oh, of course, you need to fuck her good. That's non-negotioable. (in that case, check my blog for recommendation )

Sleep with her and everything else think later..

Hope this help,
Naughty Napoloen

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