Well at the moment im not in a very good place. Everything has been great. I k-close pretty consistently at clubs. But i am still a virgin.
I dont get why. I have been working.hard in the gym over the last 2 years and am attractive with a good body. Just in general, how to game girls when you are with your friends in clubs and in the day.i always feel so selfconscious that everyone else is judging me when i talk to girls. It makes me rush game and bail often which is my sticking point. I cant approach unless i am on my own.

You need to work on inner game... seems like you have all the techniques down but they're not totally congruent with who you are. Who cares what people think> youll never see them again anyway

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At the moment it seems you have certain underlying beliefs. They might be things like "It is important that I am viewed positively" etc etc etc...

At the end of the day, the judgements of other people are completely unimportant to what you are CREATING...move your focus away from how others are perceiving and judging you and onto what you are creating in each moment.

If you think about it, it is selfish and egoic to keep thinking about how others are perceiving and judging YOU...as opposed to thinking of the bond you are creating, what you are doing and the person you are talking to (moving the focus onto the other person is really important here).

Ultimately if you can transcend the judgements of others entirely then you can free yourself completely. That will probably take a fair amount of sustained time and effort but wow...the results of doing so are awesome. I'm doing the same change, can't say I'm absolutely 100% there yet but I've made loads of progress so far.

What people think of you is completely irrelevant to who you are. It's also irrelevant to what you are creating. If you can instill those beliefs at a deep level then that will be transformative...and absolutely awesome.

Thank you so much to both of you. I understand what you are saying now which i guess is half the battle.) mamy many thanks

You did not say, but judging by your post your early to mid 20's?

No one here will judge you for that, unless of course you are unwilling to make a change and improve yourself. And choose to blame outside input for you lack of skills/confidence blocking your ultimate goal. I see you have the desire to want to change and improve yourself.

As others have stated, that my young friend has to come from within you.
Let me shed some dark-light.

Do those that you fear are judging you, pay your bills? Satisfy your companionship needs? Jack you off in the wee hours when your sad and lonely set of blue balls need some relief? Do they have any positive influence in your life at all?

I seriously doubt it.

FUCK THEM!

If you were running from an emergency situation, and you had an anchor tied to your belt, wouldn't you cut that anchor loose?

Cut loose of your anchors, your balls dialed 911 for you and you ended up here.

Now, how can you a virgin learn this? Even if such a young man was able to use game techniques in order to successfully get a woman and bring her back to his apartment, he would probably be clueless what to do next. All of us here remember the first time we had sex and if we are honest with ourselves, we remember how completely clueless we were about it.

I myself was so nervous that I had to have her keep putting it in her for me, I was that clueless.

Start with the newbie challenge.

Top two pointers.

1.If at first you don't succeed, try again, and again, and again, and again, do not reverse your forward momentum. EVER.

2. Don't discriminate, I don’t give a fuck if she's fat, she's ugly, she's 40 years old, get over that first hump Bro.

Remember your balls dialed 911, they could care less what the rescue girl looks like.

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One of the things you can do if you are really self-conscious when people are around, is to
INVOLVE them in the story of the "pick-up".

So if you walk over there, and a girl starts talking to you, say to her, "You know I have
my friend waiting over there...and they're all jealous for me talking to you...let's wave at
them so they cans top drooling..."

And you turn to them with the girl and you wave.

Or let's say the interaction doesn't go well. And there are other people watching.

What you do is you turn to them and you say, "She doesn't want me. She says I'm too
pretty to her. Can you imagine the nerve...?"

And you smile to them.

So when self-conscious about other people being there, INVOLVE them in the story.

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