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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:20 am 
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AKA the mindset creates the giggles which are sexual tension expressed. No giggles, no tension. Lousy attitude. Mindset, though, is a head issue, and I'm working through that, as mysarge count rises, but I'm still trying to angle right.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Creating tension causes giggles; the girl is trying to break the tension with laughter. Trying to make her laugh will not create tension. The problem with your approach is you are trying to create the giggling instead of trying to create the tension.


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Hunter, can you or someone give an example of a lay/sarge where you didn't use humor? I use humor but don't have any lines, its mostly off the cuff. Alot is missing in terms of context and it may be difficult for the OP to grasp what you mean without information. You may be using tension at the night club but if the OP is opening girls on his lunch break, its gonna seem weird for him to understand how to build that tension during the day within 5 mins, get a number, not be funny over the phone, get a date and a lay from that.
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Escalating physically, unshakeable confidence and heavy eye contact consistently gets me laid. You don't need to be funny to make girls wet. Leading, being challenging, commanding, fearless and masculine will get you laid.
Match your success with some context. I think it could help OP as details are missing.


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AKA the mindset creates the giggles which are sexual tension expressed. No giggles, no tension. Lousy attitude. Mindset, though, is a head issue, and I'm working through that, as mysarge count rises, but I'm still trying to angle right.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Creating tension causes giggles; the girl is trying to break the tension with laughter. Trying to make her laugh will not create tension. The problem with your approach is you are trying to create the giggling instead of trying to create the tension.
Hm. I hit on a girl at an office I regularly visit, yesterday. After smirking at her for a good many seconds in which she asked me what I wanted as I held up a cell phone, I asked for herto be photographed, which she politely declined, not not without smiling.

Given my past history with her, and that she didn't act like I was a creep, I surmise that my misttake wasnot to tease her more, before asking, or else ask her to make intermediate steps, instead. I mean, not too long ago, I asked her what picture of me on my phone she liked best, ostensibly for online purposes (we're talking an employment office), and she did a little IOI-ing in its wake.

Still, my staring at her with lust eyes did not turn her away. I built tension, via via eye contact and silence, yet it was not enough. I suppose the way to making giigle is simply "playing" with her. How do you suggest?

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Hunter, can you or someone give an example of a lay/sarge where you didn't use humor? I use humor but don't have any lines, its mostly off the cuff. Alot is missing in terms of context and it may be difficult for the OP to grasp what you mean without information. You may be using tension at the night club but if the OP is opening girls on his lunch break, its gonna seem weird for him to understand how to build that tension during the day within 5 mins, get a number, not be funny over the phone, get a date and a lay from that.
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Escalating physically, unshakeable confidence and heavy eye contact consistently gets me laid. You don't need to be funny to make girls wet. Leading, being challenging, commanding, fearless and masculine will get you laid.
Match your success with some context. I think it could help OP as details are missing.
Man, had I skill, I shoulda had her making out with me in her office, but I'm not there, obviously.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:02 am 
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Mistake #1 with the office girl was not warming her up before taking photo.

Mistake #2 - Your consistent mistake which you repeat over and over is being a permission boy. Every time you ask instead of act, you lose one point of attractiveness in her eyes. Stop asking permission. Always do what you want.

Mistake #3 you need to stop being weird. You don't just go up to a girl in the office holding a camera with a weird grin on your face. Even if you don't believe she thought you were creepy, she still refused, so she can't have been best pleased about it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:06 pm 
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(Sigh.) Fair enough. Still, I'm trying to get looser, and am looking for positive examples. As for your #3 reason, well, I honestly thoght raising tension with just your eyes a good thing, so I suppose the context wasn't the best, but I gues you're saying the situation called for "going under the radar," yes?

As I wrote elsewhere:
I attended a college graduation, and greeted a lot of people, which made sense, under the circumstances, but I really don't know what I'm doing, other than feeling a flow of sorts.

The next day, I was walking in downtown Olympia, and greeting everyone that came near. I saw this attractive young woman coming out of a bar, I saw this a nice opportunity to do this to someone attractive, apply the 3-second rule, said hello, and patted on the shoulder, which I handled awkwardly, and walked on. SHe called after me, asking why I did that, to which I smiled and just said I was being friendly, and walked on. Probably thought me a strange variety of groper in the end, but still she must have been impressed on some level with me, because she wouldn't have reengaged if she just deemed me a simple creep.


It still takes effort to push myself to practice, and frankly, when I do, I keep being afraid I'll get busted by cops, which could be a self-fulfilling prophecy, in my case.

Hey, I'm making effort, but I need to associate with winners, or examples thereof--at least.

I'm now looking into nervous laughter from hired guns, seeing what can be either done to trigger, or exacerbate it, and my big problem seems to to serious, in general when I do try, though...

There was an 8 at the front desk of of the gym I work out at, who seemed to be noticing me to talking to other staffers at the station instead of her, so this was a pretty warm approach, I figured. Before leaving, walked up to her, and referred to her confidently, and playfully, as Jessica, to which she gamely enough replied that her name was Chelsea. Me, I responded (jokingly) that her last name better not be Clinton, or else I'd have to kill her. SHe laughed, but not as much a much as I'd like, and more awkwardly than desired (Democrat, probably). Spent an awkward moment of silence smiling into her polite face, before wussily retreating.

Didn't ask premission, that time, wasn't being a creep, but couldn't keep the conversation going, overthought, and stalled, even if having achieved the objective of inducing laughter.

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Didn't ask premission, that time, wasn't being a creep, but couldn't keep the conversation going, overthought, and stalled, even if having achieved the objective of inducing laughter.
The biggest danger to your game right now is your obsession (yes, OBSESSION) with inducing laughter. How many times do I have to tell you, laughter WILL NOT lead to sex with you because you are OUTCOME DEPENDENT. This means you rely on a girl's positive réaction before you will even consider escalating towards sex.


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Outcome dependent. Maybe so, sir, but that doesn't help me stop being outcome dependent. I guess practice and experience are the only remedies.

Oh, but I did want to give an update on that office girl, which definitely confirms to me that for all my errors, weirding her wasn't one. So you know, last week, I flirted with her, suggested she wear a ponytail, and she IOI-ed a little.

Well, late in the day, yesterday, she comes in to the room I'm at, wearing a pony tail, something she hadn't done since I'd suggested it, which is significant, and starts explaining to me why she'd declined my offer to photograph her three days previous.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, bringing this up while having your hair done in a way you know the man in question likes is a big IOI.

Any rate, she explains that she only shares photos with friends and family. (I'm sure lovers are an exception, but potential ones are out on this.) Me, I should have pushed her away more, looked at the screen, made her compete for my attention. Instead, I just downplayed her bothers about the incident, like it was no big deal, and addressing her objection to be photographed, assured her I was discreet.

And then I moved too fast, or too direct, or both. Shoulda played, more, but I instead stood up, and said, "I love your ponytail," as I went to touch it, causing her to fold her arms, and back up. I promptly sat back down, and she curtly walked away, giving a polite, yet cold, farewell.

I don't think I was wrong about mentioning the ponytail, but what I did most wrong was not make her work for my attention, enough. I botched a golden opportunity, and unless mistaken, the main culprit wasn't outcome dependence, just stupid timing, scaring away prey that should have been an easy meal.

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