We have all been there, and there are a couple of threads about it in this very forum. Girls flaking. You get a # and she cancels, never to be heard from again, etc.

A couple years ago I remember meeting a girl from a dating website and having a great time, we were all over eachother, and towards the end of the date she told me that we could have sex, but she wouldn't want to see me again if we did. Her justification was that she would feel weird having slept with a guy she just met. So I, like a punk, said we would just have to do this again sometime or some BS. A week later, I'm trying to arrange another night out with her only to be told she didn't know what she wanted in life at that time, and didn't want to see me again. MIIIIIINDFUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

Also, not all girls are looking to date you. They aren't all looking for a regular fuck buddy. Some times, and I think we are all like this not just women, you go out and just wanna hook up with somebody and never see them again. Both of these points lead to the same tip:

Fuck her the day/night you meet her. Ideally, there is literally no time apart from when you first meet her, to having sex...aside from like stepping away to pee. Because you should never assume she is trying to find a new boyfriend, you'll be let down when that girl stops texting and thinks "well I really just wanted to get laid that night, I had just broken up with (insert douchey ex bf name here)" or "I'm 21 and single, trying to party, why is this guy inviting me to dinner? I don't want to be tied down." Fuck her that day/night because there's no guarantee she'll ever want to see you again, no matter how good it was.

Finally, for all you MM types out there. There is no greater investment a girl can make in you than sleeping with you. That's why we all know a girl who is dating or used to date a complete prick who treated her like shit. Had nothing to do with love, she slept with him, and her ego prevents her from admitting it was a mistake. To admit he was bad news from the start means admitting she made a bad decision. So if she DOES figure she wants to see a guy again, of the 4 dudes that hit on her last night, who do you think she's gonna call? The richest? The best looking? Nope, the best chance goes to the guy that fucked her.

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Nice post!

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Good advice.

It's always tough to remind myself (even after plenty of ONS!) that women don't actually necessarily want to be romanced.

My advice for a simple solution to this is:

Meet for drinks.

Kiss at some point either at the first bar or en route to a second.

Get another drink, find sex location.


My buddy would say, "let's go get drinks", the girl would arrive at his apartment and he'd say, "fuck it, let's just drink wine here."

What if we already did some heavy fooling around and then she flakes because x boyfriend is back in the picture?

Adding "heavy" doesn't mean shit.

Numbers don't mean shit.

Makeouts don't mean shit, and I love making out with random chicks.

The investment isn't there until you've had sex. If you had fucked her, and the ex showed up, she would have had more trouble deciding. Oh, and you should never stop closing. As soon as you hook up with one girl, you should be out the next day/night looking for another. Too many guys end up in shitty situations like the one you are describing because they meet a girl who shows SOME level of interest, and they stop talking to all other chicks and going out to meet new ones. News flash: no guy has ever had a happy ending in a situation that involved the following sentence:

"I've been working on getting with this one girl last week or two and...."

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You're absolutely right. I did bang another girl friday btw, and was out sarging solo saturday (I just moved and don't know and guys to go hunting with so I've been solo for a month). Unfortunately I bumped into her by accident saturday and she was totally flaky (which is when she told me about how shitty her weekend was and her x-bf who blablabla and its complicated blablabla and I couldn't even shake her hand she was so distressed).

problem is, she is way hot and I dig her and even if I fucked another chick who is attractive the day before. I still dig this one.

She is much younger (24-25) and her x-bf is too. i used her age when i first picked her up by saying i dont think she is old enough, So I figure that I call her wednesday(sooner or later?) and say something like that her stress is coming from dating a teenager and that she should meet me for coffee cause for sure she'll gain some clarity.

what do you think?

Cheers

I wouldn't even do that, to be honest. Why get involved in drama? If she just hadn't answered a phone call, sure, wait 3-4 days and call/text just to touch base and see if you can set something up. But why bother with a girl who you KNOW IS GOING TO BE A HEADACHE.

One of the greatest things we have in our pocket is fast escalation, that's why I posted this. Another great tool is the willingness to walk away from a girl when you see it's just not worth the effort. And I don't necessarily mean she isn't hot, or could be good in bed or just fun to be around. I'm saying there are girls equally hot/fun who will not have ex-drama. If a girl ever saw me and started talking to me about personal drama, I'd just say "well good luck" and walk away.

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